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02x02 - Rosemary's Baby

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Cursed Films". Aired: April 2, 2020 – May 5, 2022.*
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The documentary series focuses on alleged curses that afflicted the production of notable horror/non-horror films.

02x02 - Rosemary's Baby

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Movies are extremely

compelling expressions,

not only of stories,

not only of drama,

but of the zeitgeist.

They reflect back to us

who we are

politically,

socially,

religiously.

There are certain themes

whose moments,

whose time have arrived.

And the Satanic themes that

appeared in "Rosemary's Baby"

just seemed perfectly in step

with the tenor of the times.

In 1968,

everything was kind of changing

culturally.

The Vietnam w*r was really

at its worst,

so there was a massive youth

movement to stop the w*r.

A lot of people,

including the government,

feared that this revolution

was actually gonna happen

in the United States,

fueled by the youth of America.

It was a violent,

turbulent time.

Male This is a CBS

News Special Report.

The death of Dr. Martin

Luther King Junior.

In 1968,

there was the Martin Luther

King assassination.

There was the Robert Kennedy

assassination.

I always say horror films

reflect the times we live,

"Rosemary's Baby" came out

at a pivotal moment in history.

The world was really changing,

and horror films

changed with it.

"Rosemary's Baby"

was a milestone movie.

Not too many mainstream

Hollywood films, even now,

would deal with a story

of a young woman,

r*ped and impregnated

by the devil.

I think it's one

of the greatest horror movies

ever made for the very

simple reason

that it presents

the adversary

as us!

Not someone who transforms

under a full moon,

comes out only at night.

But the adversary

is my slightly wacky,

eccentric, nosy,

if likable, neighbors.

And I think that's

the movie's genius.

- That's one of the twists.

- This is for you,

from Roman and me.

- It gave people a different

idea of what Satanists are.

- It's lovely.

- As a child growing up,

just emerging as a Satanist

when I was 12-years-old,

when I heard for the first time

from someone else's lips

besides mine, "Hail Satan,"

- Hail, Satan!

- Hail, Satan!

- Satan is his father!

- It was inspiring.

It was strengthening.

If you're not a Satanist,

and you're not rooting

for the Satanists,

I suppose it might be

a different perception.

- Oh God!

Polanski was in many

ways a bellwether of his times.

He, too, observed that

traditional hierarchies

were being upended.

There was fascination

with witchcraft,

and questions of the afterlife.

And of course,

with Anton Lavey's founding

of the Church of Satan,

there was a question about

whether adversarial forces

represented a legitimate

spiritual or ethical

path for people.

So, suddenly doors to the

infinite were thrown open.

And that was part

of the counterculture.

- There was definitely a synergy

between the Church of Satan

and "Rosemary's Baby."

As far as "Rosemary's Baby"

actually being cursed,

As far as somebody dying

or tragedy happening attached

to the film itself,

there is an idea

that if you make a wicked film,

a dark film,

then you're opening yourself

up to forces outside yourself

that could influence your life

in a negative way.

"Rosemary's Baby"

is considered cursed,

partly because of its

proximity and time

to the m*rder of Polanski's

wife,

Sharon Tate,

and her housemates.

Polanski met

Sharon Tate in London

in swinging 1967.

Sharon Tate was obviously

ambitious.

- I feel a little top-heavy.

- You are a little top-heavy.

What's your ultimate ambition?

- I want to remain as much

myself as possible,

you know, and just do

what really excites me,

and interests me.

She was also smart enough to see

that Polanski was a man

with a future.

Roman's absolutely a genius.

And he was a hard-luck guy.

He's a brilliant director,

and he had a lot of hard luck

in his life

and I'm sure that leaves

its mark,

but only a psychiatrist

would know that.

My name is Julian Wasser.

I'm a photo-documentarian.

I'm a photojournalist.

I started when I was 11,

I put a police radio

in my father's car.

I would steal his car

and go out,

sh**t horrible crime scenes.

What makes a good

crime photograph?

- Blood. Someone burned alive,

something like that.

A suicidal-like, Talbert Street

Bridge,

where the person

lands on the concrete

and they're smashed to pieces.

Anything horrible.

And how did that transition into

photographing celebrities?

Well, in L.A.,

what else is there

except celebrities?

That's what sells.

That's what everybody

in the world wants to see.

Marilyn Monroe,

Marlon Brando,

people like that.

I worked on the set

of "Rosemary's Baby."

Anything Roman Polanski

touched was a big, big deal.

You had uh, Mia Farrow in that,

I think she was married

to Sinatra then.

And Bob Evans,

another charismatic guy

who was involved.

So it was a big deal,

I-I felt very privileged

to be able to work on that set.

And there's Mia Farrow

in the background

with a knife on the floor,

and then Bud Fraker,

the camera guy on the right,

he's since passed on.

This was in 1968.

It was a long time ago.

"Rosemary's Baby"

was written by Ira Levin,

a self-professed

New York atheist.

And Levin asked himself

the question one day,

what would it be like

if I took a scene

from everyday life,

a young woman becoming pregnant,

and made it into a kind

of a nightmare?

- Dr. Hill?

Congratulations.

- Really?

You're also seeing this horror

of women at that time period.

When you watch that movie,

there's always an older man

guiding her by the back

of her arm.

She's always being told

to ignore her instincts,

to always just sort of mold

to whatever these men

want from her,

and she's really absorbing that.

That was the story for women

for so many generations

that they didn't have

any other choice

but to mold within that world,

or perish.

It's saying something about her,

but it's also equally subversive

in that she's going against

her own Catholic faith

to raise this satanic child.

One important aspect

that defines "Rosemary's Baby"

is William Castle's involvement.

My dad was the nicest, kindest,

most compassionate man,

who just happened to love

to scare the Hell outta people.

He was a well-

respected director/producer.

- Do you believe in ghosts?

You know, but most of his

films, you know, he was,

he was the gimmick guy.

I mean, I loved "Homicidal,"

where there was a clock

that came up

right at the cl*max of the film.

So if you were too

frightened to stay,

you could leave,

and get your money back.

He had a film called

"House on Haunted Hill,"

and something called "Emergo,"

a skeleton flew across

the theatre,

to everybody's screams

of delight.

- It was William Castle

who produced that film,

and he bought "Rosemary's Baby,"

and I was not overjoyed

when he did.

So my dad definitely

wanted to direct

"Rosemary's Baby" when

he bought the property.

And he brought the book to

Robert Evans over at Paramount,

but it was within the week,

I think,

that they said, no,

we're gonna have this young,

hot new director,

Roman Polanski, direct it.

And my father was really upset.

He still was gonna produce

this, but

his shot at directing

an "A" film

was taken away from him.

- I remember the day

when he called,

and said that he had decided

not to direct it himself.

He was getting Roman Polanski,

and was I terribly unhappy?

So I said no, I think I can

get over that. So

And I remember Roman

coming over the house,

and my Dad saw Roman's

fantastic talent,

and thought,

okay, let's do this.

We have four main characters

in "Rosemary's Baby."

In the leading spot

is Mia Farrow,

and John Cassavetes

is playing her husband.

Roman is a craftsman.

The best, and I trusted him.

All the way.

There is a long-standing

rumor that Anton Lavey,

the founder of the Church

of Satan

was a technical advisor

to the film,

or played the role of Satan

himself in the movie.

Anton Lavey got

involved for authenticity

and advice.

- Hail, Satan.

- Hail, Satan.

- Anton had talked about

Mia Farrow and Frank Sinatra

having friction on this set,

he talked about John Cassavetes

and Polanski having

some friction

because they both

wanted to direct.

The exterior filming

of "Rosemary's Baby"

was obviously filmed

in New York City,

but the interiors were all built

on the Paramount Studios lot.

Interesting, Paramount Studios

is actually

former cemetery property.

"Hollywood Memorial Park,"

right behind it,

used to be twice as big

as it is.

This wall that you see

on to our right,

This is the wall

of the cemetery.

In the early nineteen-teens,

Hollywood Cemetery was actually

literally cut in half, and sold.

And on the other half,

a movie studio was built.

Where this traffic light is,

is where Hollywood

Cemetery ends,

and where Paramount Studios

begins.

I have no doubt that

there are remains

underneath Paramount Studio.

So the studio itself is fairly,

I think I can say with

confidence, haunted.

I don't know

if "Rosemary's Baby"

is the most cursed film.

And I don't know if there's

such a thing as a "cursed set,"

but I wouldn't bet

my life on it.

After the film was made,

bad stuff started to happen.

With "Rosemary's Baby,"

all of these terrible

things that took place

in the actors, and actresses

and producers' lives

happened after the film's

release.

The Krzysztof Komeda story

is a key one for me.

Krzysztof Komeda was a prolific

jazz musician.

He'd had about 60 film

soundtracks already

under his belt before he

started working with Polanski.

He'd worked on other films

with Polanski

like "Cul-de-Sac,"

and "Knife in the Water."

"Rosemary's Lullaby" at the

opening credits of the film

is one of the most iconic

pieces of Music

in terms of horror films

that we have.

So, according to Polanski,

after the film in December '68,

he was drinking with Komeda

and another guy called Hlasko,

who was a writer.

And those two got involved

in a bit of rough and tumble,

and Komeda fell and hit

his head.

That's one version of events.

Another story says he was

in a car accident in L.A..

What we do know as fact is

that he developed a hematoma

on the brain

and fell into a coma,

and sadly died three

months later.

Now there's a dark reflection

on that in the film.

Obviously, Rosemary's friend,

Hutch.

- Hutch, this is Roman Castevet.

He is targeted

by a coven of witches.

He develops a mystery illness

and falls into a coma,

and dies three months later.

- Hutch is dead.

Just like Komeda.

In the spiritual world,

there's a thing which is known

as a "God wink."

When you have a coincidence

which is a good coincidence,

The idea is that's God

winking at you

to let you know that

you're on the right path.

I think there were certain

dark coincidences

such as Komeda's death

and Hutch's death in the film,

which is kind of like

a devil wink,

for want of a better phrase.

It's kind of like the devil

himself saying

that you're not

on the right track.

Right after the film premiered,

my Dad had to go in for major,

major surgery.

His kidney stopped working,

and he was convinced he saw

the reflection of the devil

in the surgeon's knife.

But that's only part of it.

When the Catholic Church

gave it a C rating

and condemned it.

When he got hate mail

saying that he was gonna rot

in Hell.

He went into a depression.

He's used to making kind of

fun horror films, you know,

and all of the sudden,

he thought,

what did I bring

into this world?

The night before I gave labor

to my second child,

I dreamt that I was Rosemary.

- Really?

- Which is not a real pleasant

thing to dream

right before you're about to go

and give birth to a baby.

Yeah.

And it has affected how

I wanna protect my children,

and how one child

I wasn't able to protect.

I had one child who died

of cancer.

Was that the curse?

I don't know.

And my sister died very young

of a heart and kidney issue.

Was that the curse?

I don't know.

And my mother had Alzheimer's

at a very young age,

and lived with Alzheimer's

for 20 years.

Was that the curse?

I don't know.

The events of "Rosemary's Baby"

take place in 1966,

which was the very year

Anton Lavey

founded the Church of Satan.

Of course, in one of the famous

scenes from "Rosemary's Baby,"

Rosemary is seated

in the waiting room

of her obstetrician

and picks up a copy

of Time Magazine,

which famously has on its cover

the question,

"Is God Dead?"

The Western world experienced

an occult revival

by the late 60s with

the Woodstock Generation.

It's like people that

are nowhere are coming here

because there's people that

they think are somewhere.

So everybody is like,

really looking for you know,

for some kind of answer.

Where there isn't one.

It's just like, people

are very lost, I think.

- The intersection

of the hippie movement

and the occult movement makes

a lot of sense to me.

Because I think they're

hand-in-hand in terms

of the type of ideas

that they were exploring.

You know, with the hippie

movement you have like,

this sort of, return

to the land idealism.

It's going back to these

sort of paganistic

religious systems.

I think that the obsession

with witchcraft

and the occult during

the 1960s and 1970s

originated in England in 1951,

when there was the reversal

of the Witchcraft Act,

which had been put in place

in 1735,

and that did not allow anyone

to openly practice witchcraft.

So when that was lifted,

you've got this whole

kind of expl*si*n

of everybody wanting

to explore this topic,

because they previously

weren't allowed to.

You have these kind of

mind-altering drugs

that are also playing a factor

in this great awakening

that was occurring

in the culture.

People who really started

using LSD recreationally

would kind of have um,

religious experiences,

and hallucinations.

- Help me!

Some of them explored all kinds

of mystical religions,

and some people became

interested in Satanism.

There were rumors that Sharon

Tate dabbled in Satanism.

If she did,

I think it was more out

of curiosity and fun,

but there were other people

who had gotten serious about it.

I'm trying to think if there

were any famous people

who ever admitted it,

Sammy Davis Jr.

Identified,

and called himself a Satanist.

He understood that Satanism

was an advocate for minority

positions

in a lot of ways.

That was a period

in Sammy's life

that he later wrote about

and was very public about.

But what's truly weird

is that Sammy Davis Jr's memoir,

"Yes, I Can,"

can be seen very prominently

on screen at least twice,

once when Rosemary is snuggling

up with the book,

Then another time when

Guy is tucking away

a book on witches that Rosemary

had been given,

and we see the spine

of Sammy Davis' book,

very prominently featured.

As a man whose life

was impacted by evil,

Polanski, he has to be

seen as an artist

who, at that time,

was trying to expose us

to questions of evil

in ourselves.

When we talk about

having a tough childhood,

it's hard to compare to what

actually happened to Polanski.

Polanski's mother, Bula,

was taken to Auschwitz,

and she happened to have

been four months pregnant

at the time,

which was significant

because of course,

one of the first things

that happened on arrival

at these terrible places

was an inspection

as to whether or not

you were fit for work.

Tragically,

she was exterminated.

Polanski's father

was also arrested.

He eventually ended up

in terrible circumstances

having to work at

the Mauthausen camps,

what was called

the "staircase of death,"

which involved carrying

these huge slabs of rock

up and down rough stone steps.

And if you fell, you were

basically left to die.

Polanski's father

survived two years

of this nightmarish ordeal,

and eventually was liberated

by the Americans

in the spring of 1945,

and reunited with his child.

By this stage, Roman Polanski

already had seen

more real horror and bloodshed

in his life

than most of us would care

to see

in our entire lives.

And that was just the beginning.

The year after

the film came out,

one of the most impactful

moments of my young life

was driving up to San Francisco.

We pulled over to the curb,

and my dad saw a newspaper

stand and read the headline

that Sharon Tate

had had been m*rder*d,

and her baby had been m*rder*d.

And they turned the car around,

and we drove right back.

Well, I got up,

and I heard a lot of sirens.

I called the police department

and I said,

what's going on in west L.A.?

And they told me there was

an incident on Cielo Drive.

And I got dressed

and went right up there.

This incredible true crime case

is like nothing else.

It involves rock stars

and movie stars.

If you didn't know

it was a true crime,

you would think it's a movie.

My name's Scott Michaels,

and this is Dearly

Departed Tours.

And welcome back to 1969.

I put together

the "Helter Skelter Tour"

probably about 13 years ago.

Three weeks prior to

the Tate-LaBianca murders,

the first man walked

on the moon.

A couple of weeks prior to that,

Judy Garland died in London.

Her funeral in New York kicked

off the Stonewall Riots,

and the g*y Rights Movement

went into full swing.

Myself, I'm obsessed

with the year 1969.

"Incense and Peppermints,"

"White Rabbit,"

Jefferson Airplane.

You got the peace sign,

you got mushrooms.

On the very day of the murders,

August 8th,

just a few hours before the

Tate murders in Beverly Hills,

the Beatles took that

iconic Abbey Road

album cover photograph,

which I think is fascinating,

because they figure

into this case.

This is important to me,

the addresses of Cielo Drive,

and the LaBianca's house

on Waverly Drive,

because I spent so much

of my time in my life

researching them, and I wanted

to commemorate them.

Cielo drive is still

a tourist attraction.

Although the house has been

gone since 1993,

and a new house has been put

in its place.

Roman and Sharon

moved into the house

in February of '69.

It was a rental.

And by the end of March,

both of them had gone to Europe

to do separate projects.

Roman went to London to work

on the script

and pre-production

for "Day of the Dolphin,"

which was a film he planned

to direct, but he never did.

- Va-go-now-mei-nah-her-pas!

- Yes!

- And while they were gone,

Roman had Abigail Folger

and Wojciech

kind of take care of the house.

Cielo Drive is in the middle

of Benedict Canyon, basically.

This tragic boulevard

that makes its way

from the Sunset Strip,

all the way over

to the San Fernando Valley.

Benedict Canyon is located on

I think this is official,

like, like a Native American

burial ground.

And I believe somehow, some way,

something terrible

was wished upon the place,

because there are too many

things that happened

in Benedict Canyon

for it to be a coincidence.

Well, starting from the very

base of Benedict Canyon

is the Beverly Hills Hotel,

where Peter Finch

- I'm as mad as Hell,

and I'm not gonna take this

anymore!

- the Australian actor died

of a heart attack in the lobby,

winning the first posthumous

Academy Award.

- Peter Finch, in "Network."

- A little bit further up

is where Richard Dreyfus

was nearly k*lled

in a car crash.

Across the street from where

a musician named Charo lives.

Her husband k*lled himself in

the alley behind their house.

A Benedict Canyon address.

A little bit further up

was where Elizabeth Montgomery

from "Bewitched" lived and died,

across the street

from John Ritter's house.

John Riter didn't die

in Benedict Canyon,

but he lived there at the time.

A little bit further up,

Susan Berman was m*rder*d

in Benedict Canyon,

the Durst murders that they

made the documentary about.

About five doors down,

George Reeves, "Superman,"

died of a speeding b*llet

to the head.

A little bit further up,

there was a woman by the name

of Yvette Vickers.

She was a B-movie star,

she was in "Sunset Boulevard,"

she was in "The Attack

of the 50 Foot Woman."

She died in her home.

She wasn't found for months.

A little bit further up,

Paul Bern and Jean Harlow's

house.

Paul Bern k*lled himself

in that house.

Jay Sebring moves

into that house.

Rudolph Valentino lived across

the way from the Tate murders,

and then Doris Duke,

the tobacco heiress,

died in that same house under

very mysterious circumstances.

Her butler inherited something

like $500 billion.

He bought a house in Benedict,

and died a couple months later.

There's so many stories

about Benedict Canyon,

but it all goes up

to Cielo Drive,

where the Tate murders happen.

That seems to be the awful

notorious crown jewel

of Benedict Canyon.

I couldn't believe that

these souls could do that.

We are a family!

Men and k*ll every white mother,

every white babe.

I just was in shock.

I couldn't believe Tex

could do that.

Susan, and Patty.

I remember Tex slapped

the newspaper,

and the headline read

something like,

"Tate-LaBianca Murders."

And he slaps that, and he says,

"I did this.

Charlie told me to."

My name is Dianne Lake,

former member of the Manson

family,

formerly known as "Snake."

I was 14,

when I got introduced

to Charlie and the girls,

they opened their arms to me,

and I felt wanted,

and I felt loved there.

But I think that what happened

was that he had this experience

of being crucified on acid.

And I think he started to

believe that he was a Messiah,

that's when it really

started to turn was,

you know, maybe nine months in,

when we got to Spahn Ranch.

He'd been always talking

about this race w*r.

That's when he started getting

enamored with the White Album,

and that the Beatles were

sending him a message.

Then this black/white race w*r

became Helter Skelter.

This race w*r was like

an apocalypse.

You know, a lot of people

were gonna die.

We, as a family,

were going to be preserved.

Charlie wanted us to have

babies for creation,

and that we would help

repopulate the earth.

It seems

It's kind of crazy

to talk about, but

you know, um,

but that, you know,

looking back,

that's really, that was

That was what he wanted to do.

There's an obvious link

from Charles Manson

to "Rosemary's Baby."

The Dakota building was used

as the outside

of the Bramford, as we know.

John Lennon had an apartment

in the Dakota.

And then you say, okay, well

the large bulk of the White

Album was written in India,

during a retreat.

And at that retreat

was Mia Farrow.

Mia Farrow, who was

friends with Sharon Tate,

and Roman, hung out

with the Beatles,

went to India with her sister,

songs were named after them,

verses in classic Beatles songs

refer to Mia and her sister.

You mentioned the White Album,

and John Lennon,

and what's eerie

is that in the scene where

Rosemary is in the taxicab

and she's got that like,

occult book

that she gets from

the bookstore,

in the background, there's

always this white Beetle

that's like, trailing her.

There's a white VW Beetle

that's throughout the film,

actually.

You always see it parked

out front of the building.

A lot of what the film

is dealing with

is what's hidden in plain sight.

- The Dakota building is

the outside of the Bramford,

and that's where the writer

of those songs

would eventually be m*rder*d.

My gosh, the Dakota,

where "Rosemary's Baby"

was filmed,

and John Lennon was m*rder*d

right in front of it.

News John Lennon gave

his autograph to the g*nman

six hours before the senseless

sh**ting,

in the entrance to his New York

apartment building.

That's sinister.

If you look at the scene

where the woman jumps

out of a window

in "Rosemary's Baby" and

you know, commits suicide,

Get back.

- It's the exact spot where

John Lennon was shot.

And it's very eerie,

because you're thinking

about the White Album,

and you're thinking

about Helter Skelter.

Then we say, okay,

so Charles Manson,

who plays a big part in the

curse of "Rosemary's Baby,"

He said he was inspired

by songs on the White Album,

and nine months after

the White Album's release,

Charles Manson and the Manson

family

m*rder*d Sharon Tate.

You can find a connection

between anything,

if you look hard enough,

but it doesn't necessarily mean

that it's not true.

If we take a look,

for example, Victoria Vetri,

she's one of the key players

in the curse

of "Rosemary's Baby."

So she only has a bit part

in "Rosemary's Baby."

She plays Terry,

who is taken in by the Castevets

before she eventually allegedly

throws herself out of a window.

So, Victoria Vetri,

she does also go by the alias

of Angela Dorian.

After "Rosemary's Baby,"

she became very close friends

with Sharon Tate.

After the Manson murders,

Victoria then went into

a dark paranoia.

She doesn't want to go

out at night.

She becomes quite reclusive.

My name is Victoria Vetri,

and I was born in Hollyweird.

I mean, Hollywood.

I did a lot of films

and TV shows.

I still get residuals.

I enjoy being an actress

and entertaining people,

and I love to move.

I love to move!

There's all these films

that I look at

and I'm in shock, I'm going,

oh my God, I never even got

a chance to see them.

And I'm going, wow, that was me,

you know, when I was younger.

I'm happy, though.

I'm living with someone that

I really care for right now.

- My name's Mark Melvin,

And I'm a friend

of Victoria Vetri.

You are Victoria's

- Play toy.

- Bravo, bravo!

- Yeah.

Back in the '60s, she really

had a booming career

in Hollywood going on.

It's been so long

since I looked back

at some of these things.

Maybe I should see them again

so I can remember them,

I mean, as I'm getting older,

my-I'm losing part of my brains.

No, I'm just kidding.

Do you remember

working with Mia Farrow?

- Vaguely, yeah, I think so.

I mean, I'm trying to remember

what film we

What we did together.

- My name is Terry Ginoffrio.

- Nice to meet you.

I'm Rosemary Woodhouse.

And that's me,

with the dark wig on.

And I'm washing clothes

back there.

- Did you have to rehearse

this scene at all,

or did you just uh

- No.

We just went through with it.

I enjoyed working with her too.

What was her name again?

- Mia Farrow.

- Mia Farrow, yes.

Excellent,

beautiful actress, too.

- It's kind of an interesting

story, the way we met,

basically, through the pink car

that Playboy

- Oh yeah!

- Gave her in 1968

for being Playmate of the Year.

- I was Playmate of the Year,

and I had no clothes on.

- I ended up buying

that car in 2010,

and I was excited, I was gonna

meet the Playmate of the Year.

And then three months

afterwards,

I heard that she had shot

her husband.

- I was, I was a bad girl.

- Don't do that again.

- Never.

- Especially not me.

- Oh, I would never hurt you.

You know that.

I only hurt myself.

Well, he's alive.

- He survived, yeah.

- Thank God, but I'm trying

to remember all this.

Oh my gosh,

I don't even know what

- That's because of your memory.

- Well, my memory's coming

and going sometimes.

Just

So

My name is Bruce Rathgeb.

Victoria was a waitress

between acting jobs, I guess.

And I was a chef.

So that's how we met,

and kinda had a chemistry

right off,

We were flirtin'

with each other.

We had a great 20 years

together.

The last five,

Baby, you almost k*lled me.

Oh, Bruce Rathgeb.

Oh dear.

Victoria Rathgeb, eww!

I was in a band,

and she'd be saying,

there was girls at your

rehearsal, and this and that.

I'm saying, no, no, you know.

I don't like to talk

negative about people that I

You know, once you are married

and living with them,

and they wanna keep you

in their order.

I find out that

he's cheating on me?

Uh-uh! Later.

And I said,

"I'm not gonna fight."

And here she comes with the g*n.

I said, you're gonna sh**t me,

really, for-for what?

And I saw her aiming the g*n,

and I couldn't watch.

So I turned my back, and

pop, she shot me in the back.

It went through my lung,

and I guess they went

to operate,

the b*llet was a 1/4-inch

from my heart

so they left it in me.

It's still in me now,

traveling around somewhere.

At one point,

my doctor x-rayed me,

and it was in my right shoulder.

So, yeah, it's crazy.

I loved her.

And I still love her.

She spent eight years in prison.

- Was it eight years?

Oh my God.

- And she's been on parole

for three years now,

and it's scheduled to end

in one month.

- I'm trying to remember what

the Hell got me in prison,

to be honest, I'm

- She doesn't-I don't think

she really remembers

the incident so much.

- I don't, it's really weird.

- I think she remembers

that she was in prison.

Maybe she doesn't want

to remember.

Well, I think I wonder

why she really shot me.

She had the g*n when I met her.

Um, it was a Walther PPK 9mm.

A very good g*n.

- Walther PPK. 7.65 mil,

with a delivery like a brick

through a plate glass window.

- She got it as protection,

uh

because of the Manson murders.

She had the g*n all those years,

and then ended up sh**ting me,

instead of Charlie.

- So, "Rosemary's Baby"

was 1968.

The Manson murders happened

in '69, a year later,

but Victoria was invited

to be up there at the house,

and stayed home

for whatever reason.

But uh, she was quite surprised

to wake up the next morning

to find out everybody

that had gone up

to the house that night

was now dead.

Male In a scene

described by one investigator

as reminiscent of a weird

religious rite,

five persons, including actress

Sharon Tate,

were found dead

at the home of Ms. Tate

and her husband, screen

director, Roman Polanski.

The house that had known

a number of movie star tenants,

suddenly became a scene more

tragic than any horror movie.

- We have a weird homicide.

We're trying to piece the thing

together

with what small amount of

physical evidence we have,

and anything that I tell you

at this point

would be mere speculation,

and I'm not gonna speculate.

Male Los Angeles

police are saying little

at this time about possible

progress on solving the murders

of actress Sharon Tate,

and four others.

When Polanski

in his shocked state

arrived back in L.A.,

he saw the police investigation

is going nowhere.

As a result, he started

to undertake some of his own

uh, unofficial detective work.

He suspected everybody.

Roman called my dad

to his bungalow,

and Dad came home, and he said,

he made me write the word

"pig" over and over again.

And Dad never understood

why Roman asked him to do that.

And he had my father's

handwriting analyzed

to see if it matched the "pig"

that was written on the walls.

I was shocked.

Tommy Thompson, the

entertainment editor of Life,

was a friend of Roman's.

And Roman said, I need

a photographer to go up

to the house to photograph

it for clues,

for this psychic, Peter Hurkos.

He was a psychic to the stars,

whatever that means.

Clues for the psychic

to then analyze your photos?

- Exactly, look at my photos

and get psychic vibrations,

and find out

who the m*rder*r was.

Male Why were you

called in on this case?

A lot of people are somewhat

skeptical of mystics

and clairvoyants, and psychics.

- I have proved it enough,

and I'll take any test

what scientists may impose.

And I like skeptic people,

I approve it.

I wanna understand how Roman

can put this trust

in the psychic?

- Because it's Hollywood, man!

"Psychic!"

We went up there,

and Roman was already there.

And I asked him,

what am I gonna do?

And he told me,

just photograph everything

I'm looking at,

which I did.

I mean, one of the

pictures is iconic.

It's of Roman sitting on a chair

in front of the-the open

door to his house,

with the word "pig"

written in blood

that Julian took.

Here's a psychic

solving the crime.

I don't know what

he's looking for.

The blood was so thick,

it was like Jell-o

in the living room,

and the smell is horrible.

Like a slaughterhouse.

That's what it smelled like.

The psychic was kind

of a con artist.

Julian took Polaroids while

he was doing his sh**ting.

Hurkos sold the pictures

to one of the tabloids.

The Polaroids, the psychic took

to sell to the Hollywood

Citizen News.

Another Hollywood move,

what else is he gonna do?

When we were

in the desert running,

the girls told me specifically

their part in the murderers.

When Susan was k*lling Sharon,

or helping k*ll her,

And Sharon was begging

for the life of her baby,

Susan told me that

she thought about

cutting the baby out,

and say rescuing the baby.

What stuck with me even more

than the details,

and the details were pretty bad,

was the way in which

they told it.

They told it, they were

almost gleeful

about what they had done

for Charlie.

- We wanna take the children

to the desert.

Your children.

There's no reason why

your children should die,

they'll go to the-we'll

take 'em to the desert.

If you give 'em to us.

I am not aware of the family

Talking about "Rosemary's

Baby," Polanski,

but I can see how people

could compare and contrast

"Rosemary's Baby,"

and this woman giving birth

to a child

that was all engineered

by a family

for this baby then to become

the child of the devil.

The only time he reacted,

when he was looking at pictures

of Sharon in the bedroom,

and he started crying,

that was the only time

I saw him react.

Did he ever tell you to stop?

- No, but man, I'm telling you,

I felt that.

- You felt like stopping?

- I-I felt very bad

about this whole scene.

I didn't want to be

around there.

I felt like I was a

graverobber, it was awful.

But you know, what do you do?

You-you're working.

And then the uh,

shot of the nightstand

in their bedroom,

and there's this wedding photo

of Sharon and Roman,

and the princess phone

with black LAPD fingerprint

powder all over it.

That one shot just sums up

the whole thing.

People often ask,

how would you describe evil?

And they will always say,

Adolf Hitler.

And they will always say

Charles Manson.

And I think it's fascinating

that Polanski's family were

k*lled in a concentration camp,

It's a direct result

of Adolf Hitler.

And his wife and friends

were m*rder*d

as a direct result

of Charles Manson.

That's wild.

That-there is something there

that I can't explain.

There were people

out there who believed

that what happened

to Sharon and to Roman

was karmic retribution

for kind of exploiting

the dark side,

with "Rosemary's Baby."

They were actually implying

that it was the victim's

own bad behavior

that caused their murders.

Jack Nicholson, who was friends

with Sharon and Roman,

said that Sharon had the

unfortunate circumstance

of being m*rder*d twice.

Once by her actual K*llers,

and the next time by the press.

Now, Cielo is right

across the way here.

I-I think that's it.

- It's the street?

- I think. I think, yeah.

That's it.

There's a sign here.

Yeah, there, see?

- Okay, that's Cielo.

- Yeah, that's it.

Yeah, all this is new.

Yeah, when I came here,

there was several

police cars here,

and there was a-a telephone

coming a line man

at the top of that pole

repairing the cut wire.

I still didn't even know

what happened.

You want the overlook

shot here, turn right.

Yeah, there's the-where

the Polanski house was.

It was a tiny little

red shingle place.

Now you got that.

This thing's probably

five times bigger.

This is L.A. excess,

to the nth degree.

At the end of the

filming of "Rosemary's Baby,"

Mia Farrow bought my father

a beautiful humidor

where you keep cigars in.

On the top of the cover

was a 14-karat-gold devil,

with ruby eyes.

And it said,

"To Bill. Love, Mia."

And it ended up in

a storage unit.

And my husband was in the

storage unit and he called me,

and he said,

what do I do with that?

I'm like, you do nothing.

You just leave it

in that storage unit.

I didn't want anything

to do with it,

because it represented bad luck.

And even though we might not

completely believe in it,

we were too afraid not to.