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01x03 - Holy Cross of Brazil

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Mysteries of the Faith". Aired: November 1, 2023.*
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01x03 - Holy Cross of Brazil

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[intriguing music playing]

[Cláudio dos Santos in Portuguese]

It really is incredible for us

to have it in the cathedral.

It represents everything

that we believe in.

We keep this reliquary guarded

for security reasons.

It's very powerful A matter of faith.

But to be able to see it,

makes it even more important.

These small pieces of wood

are fragments

of the cross on which

Jesus Christ was crucified.

The relic is kept in our cathedral

and for security reasons, rarely leaves.

But this year I want to change that.

It's my desire to take it out.

I must take it to the streets.

[Cláudio Dos Santos in Portuguese]

This is the Metropolitan Cathedral

of Rio de Janeiro.

I am responsible for this church.

I've been at the cathedral

for about five years

and all my life is focused on

doing God's work, without a doubt.

I will welcome here

in our cathedral 150 couples

who will officially receive

the sacrament of marriage.

[indistinct conversation]

Many of these couples from our city

are impoverished,

living in favelas.

They have this opportunity today,

here in our cathedral,

to fulfill this dream of getting married

in the cathedral of Rio de Janeiro.

[speaking Portuguese]

[narrator in English]

The couples make their vows

beneath a huge crucifix,

the most enduring symbol in the world.

[Dr. Nicola Lewis] The cross is the most

powerful image for Christians today.

This is why Christians wear crosses

around their neck.

It's not just signifying Jesus,

but it's signifying

Jesus' ultimate sacrifice

for the redemption of humankind.

[cheering and applauding]

[narrator] The cross is central

to the Christian faith.

But for many of the people

who live in Rio's favelas,

or slums,

the cross isn't just a symbol,

it's a matter of life and death.

[Francisco De Assis in Portuguese]

The sign of the cross, for me,

represents everything.

It is something that is with me,

an everyday thing, like a shield.

There are great challenges

living in a favela.

Because within the favela,

there is this proliferation

of drugs and weapons.

So, the biggest challenge

is for us fathers

[singing in Portuguese]

[Francisco] because we must try

to make the children see

But show them that it's not something

attractive, that it is not good.

[in Portuguese] For me, the cross means

a lot of protection.

I never go out without

a cross on my chest.

One day when we were at the favela,

there was a confrontation,

and my son was taking some groceries

from the car we were in.

Then some people

who were not from the favela appeared.

The gangs fired a lot of shots.

My son says he saw a b*llet

A b*llet passing by in front of him,

and he was holding a crucifix.

He said, "Mom, God saved me."

So, for me, that was a great deliverance

from God, you know?

It wasn't luck, it was God there.

God has protected me

from many things like that,

always with a cross in my life

and in my son's life.

[narrator in English] Brazil is

the largest Catholic country in the world,

with over 100 million believers.

But very few of them know

that hidden away in Rio's Cathedral

is a relic so precious

that it's kept under lock and key.

This splinter of the Holy Cross

is rarely seen by the people of Brazil.

And those few who know of its existence

still question how it made its way to Rio.

[Cláudio Dos Santos in Portuguese]

It's a mystery.

Why did it cross the seas

until it reached our Brazil?

Who placed this fragment here?

How did it happen?

To bring God's message to this New World.

[narrator in English]

It's a story that begins

300 years after Jesus' death on the cross.

When an 80-year-old woman

sets out on a 2,000-mile journey.

[Dr. Robert Cargill]

The legend goes that the Empress Helena,

the mother of the Roman emperor

Constantine the Great,

is a devout Christian,

and she wants to go to Jerusalem

essentially on a pilgrimage,

she wants to see and touch

all of the places

associated with Jesus' life.

[narrator] In 326 AD, Helena leaves Rome

for the grueling journey to Jerusalem.

She's on a mission to find precious relics

related to the life and death

of Jesus Christ.

When Helena finally reaches Jerusalem,

she orders her men to dig,

and they discover not one,

but three crosses.

To find out which one is Jesus' crucifix,

she lays the same dead body on each cross.

On the first and second, nothing happens.

Then, on the third,

the body miraculously comes back to life.

This proves to Helena

that she has found

the Holy Cross of Jesus.

[Nicola] When Helena discovers

the True Cross,

she really initiates this interest

in Passion relics,

and really the centrality of relics

to the Christian religion.

[Robert] Helena sent

that piece of wood back to Constantine,

and from that point on,

according to legend,

began the process of being splintered up,

handed out as gifts.

[Jason Horowitz] The True Cross has been

chopped up in lots of different ways.

There are some big pieces,

there are splinters of it.

Certain people think

that if you put it all together,

you'd have something big enough to build

a log cabin out of, not just a crucifix.

[Nicola] There are pieces

in Rome, in Venice,

in Pisa, in Florence.

There's pieces in Ethiopia.

There's a piece in the Philippines.

And then there are all the pieces

that get brought to the New World.

[Luiz Souza in Portuguese] The story

of this relic is very interesting

because there is

no other phenomenon like this

that's been split into thousands of parts,

and those parts have then been sent

all over the world,

influencing the lives

of billions of people.

So, Rio is also part of this history.

The Portuguese arrived

here in Brazil in April 1500.

Here we are today,

with all this land occupied,

but imagine how

this wonderful port used to be,

what a wealth of nature,

this natural landscape,

attracting the Portuguese,

the adventurers.

[in English] One of the first things

they do when they see Brazil,

they call it Ilha de Vera Cruz,

the Island of the Holy Cross.

So, this concept of the Holy Cross

as kind of traveling with them

is there right from 1500.

[Luiz Souza in Portuguese]

Rio, at the beginning, was a small town.

It was only with the discovery of gold

that Rio began to have an influx

of more Portuguese people.

The amount of gold was so great

that it changed the course of history.

Against that backdrop,

Bishop Antônio de Guadalupe

assumes his post as bishop

of the city of Rio de Janeiro.

[narrator in English]

One story goes that in 1725,

Bishop Antônio de Guadalupe

departs from Lisbon

on an arduous two-month journey

across rough seas.

His destination,

a land he's never seen

and barely imagined.

His mission, to spread the word of God.

His companion,

a small fragment of Jesus' cross

set in a gleaming, gilded case.

[Jason] Just as you have

missionaries going out into the world

and spreading the faith with,

you know, the gospel,

you also have relics

spreading out into the world,

and they're spreading the faith also.

[Dr. Emma Southon] It's powerful to have

a piece of the True Cross

and to be able to show people and say,

"Jesus died on the cross for your sins,"

and here is a bit of the cross

that he died on."

And it gives it a little tangible hook

to hang the story on.

[narrator] Some fragments

of the True Cross

can be found much closer

to the center of the Catholic Church.

Not in the Vatican itself,

but in an ancient church

on the outskirts of Rome.

On display are three relics

said to have been found by Helena

on her epic pilgrimage to Jerusalem.

A splinter of the cross.

One of the nails hammered

through Jesus' flesh.

And a wooden sign from his crucifix.

[Don Alessandro in Italian]

The first thing I thought about

when my superiors asked me

to come and work here

was my youth, my childhood.

My parents, and my father in particular,

were very keen

to bring people to this church.

Because this basilica kept

the greatest treasure of Christianity.

The Titulus Crucis.

The Titulus reminds me that the Gospel

is alive, is true.

It's not an invention.

[Nicola in English] There's only one relic

in all of Christendom,

which is said to be the Titulus.

The Titulus Crucis

is a small plaque or sign

that was affixed

to the top of Jesus' crucifixion cross,

which announced who he was.

[narrator] When Jesus is condemned

to be crucified,

Roman soldiers attach

a wooden sign to the cross

detailing his crime

a custom intended to deter onlookers

from committing the same offense.

Jesus' sign, or Titulus,

is inscribed in Latin, Greek and Hebrew,

announcing that his crime

is claiming to be Jesus of Nazareth,

King of the Jews.

[Robert] The Titulus was done

in a mocking manner.

The Romans didn't really think

that Jesus was the king of the Jews,

but that was the charge against Jesus,

basically insurrection.

You can't claim to be king.

We have an emperor already.

And so this is the crime,

and this is what we do to people

who claim to be King around here.

[narrator] For centuries,

people have travelled the world

to bring their prayers

to this unique relic.

Some even devote their lives to it.

[Romel Almoneda]

When I saw the Titulus Crucis,

my legs were shaking.

And then I knelt down,

and then I started crying.

Tears were falling down from my eyes,

I don't know why.

But there was a feeling that

It's as if the Holy Spirit

came down upon you and touched you.

I am the Sacristan of the Basilica

of the Holy Cross.

Sacristan means not only

taking care of the day-to-day activities

of the church,

but also taking care of all the relics

inside the chapel.

This church has been my life for 15 years.

When I came here from the Philippines,

I am already married,

but my kids are small.

That's why I left my wife there

to take care of them.

Seeing the proof of Jesus' sufferings,

it deepened my faith.

It gave me strength to accept

being away from my family.

This is one of my favorite parts

of the church.

It's called The Chapel of Saint Helen.

This was her private chapel

when Constantine was Emperor.

She brought the soil from

where she found the cross to here.

[Robert] Helena did something interesting.

She didn't just bring back

these holy relics,

but she brought back soil from Jerusalem.

And when she built her chapel,

she put this soil in the floor

so that she could say

that this is actually Jerusalem.

Kind of like an embassy today.

[Romel] I am pretty sure

that Saint Helen was always here

praying for her son, for his endeavors.

And it reminds me

of my mother praying for me.

Praying for my siblings,

my wife praying for our daughters,

and praying for me.

But my children are asking me now

to be with them.

And I said yes,

I said it's about time that we will

be together after 15 years,

because I haven't seen them grow up.

Thank you.

I prayed, and I asked for a sign to God.

Is this the right time?

And he gave me a sign that,

"Yeah, my child, you can rest now,"

and be with your family."

After 15 years here,

I'm going back to the Philippines.

[woman in Italian] I have to

tell you guys something

that when we came

to the Holy Cross Basilica,

Romel was the one who welcomed me.

Now, when I heard that Romel is leaving,

for me, I'll tell you the truth.

I didn't sleep at the beginning

because I couldn't believe it.

- Hooray, Romel!

- [laughing]

Hooray for the Philippines!

- Thank you, Romel.

- Thanks to you.

- [man] Fifteen years!

- [Romel] Thanks to you.

[man] Fifteen years!

[Romel] Thanks especially for your help.

[Romel in English] I will think

of the relics every day.

I could tell my children, my grandchildren

that in one chapter of my life,

I have served the Lord in taking care

of the relics of the Passion.

[Cláudio dos Santos in Portuguese]

Being the custodian of the relic

is a great responsibility

because there you have

this direct link with the Lord's cross.

This is the Santo Antônio Convent

where I came one day

when I was very anxious to speak with God.

I already felt this desire to serve God,

to become a priest,

but I didn't know who to talk to.

I knelt down, like this,

and after kneeling

and making the sign of the cross

Looking at God and thinking,

I said "Lord, show me someone,"

and I cried a lot. [chuckles]

When I got home,

a lady named Alda called me.

She was a woman of prayer,

a very Godly woman.

When I was leaving,

she turned to me and said,

"Don't you have anything to tell me?"

I said to her, "Mrs. Alda,

today I asked God to show me"

someone who I could

talk to about my vocation."

She said, "Talk to Father Pedro.

I will help you."

What really led me to this desire

to become a priest is

to be able to provide this presence of God

in the hearts and lives of people.

Bringing hope, bringing true love.

[narrator in English] Like

Bishop Guadalupe 300 years before him,

Canon Cláudio wants to use

the relic of the Holy Cross

in his mission to spread the Word of God.

He wants to take it

to places it's never been

to be witnessed by the people of Rio.

[Cláudio dos Santos in Portuguese]

Rarely do these fragments

of the Lord's Cross leave the cathedral,

and are kept here for security reasons.

But this year, I want to change that,

as many people do not have

the opportunity to see it.

It is my wish that

as many people as possible

can know and see this relic.

It is this desire that Pope Francis

talks so much about

of a missionary church.

So this object is a way of evangelizing,

because it helps people

to be closer to God.

We must take it out onto the streets.

[narrator in English]

For those whose lives have been shaped

by the power of the Cross,

having the chance

to witness the relic in person

will be the pinnacle

of their hopes and prayers.

[Luciany in Portuguese] The cross

is a very important symbol for me.

Looking at the cross

is looking at eternity.

Because we are here,

but we have to think about eternity.

Life does not end here.

Hello. Would you accept a gift?

A cross of Christ?

Because of the devotion I have

to the cross,

I promote the cross.

And it's beautiful.

Hello, how are you?

Would you accept a cross of Christ?

I always gave crosses at weddings

to the bride and groom.

That's when it started.

And it kept growing and growing.

- Would you accept the cross of Christ?

- I do.

Would you like

the cross of Christ as well?

Our Father in Heaven.

[Luciany] That's right, Father in Heaven.

She thinks it's an earring. [chuckles]

Several miracles have happened to me

because of the cross.

Here's where I live.

And in 2020, at the beginning

of the Covid-19 pandemic

I came from work on the day

when lockdown was imposed.

I was very concerned

about the elderly residents.

[siren wailing]

[woman in English]

Everywhere you look in this cemetery,

there's row upon row

of freshly dug graves.

Confirmation that Brazil now has

the highest daily death rate

of any country in the world.

[narrator] Covid ripped through

the dense population of Rio,

endangering the lives

of the sick, the vulnerable,

and terrifying the elderly.

[Luciany in Portuguese]

Then I started praying and God answered me

that I should hang a cross

down there in the building.

This is the cross that I put up.

And thank God, it was a miracle.

We didn't have any coronavirus cases

in the building,

no one contracted the virus or got ill.

- Hi, Josefa, good afternoon.

- [speaking Portuguese]

How are you?

I came to bring you a little souvenir.

- Thank you, my dear.

- Okay.

- It's been blessed?

- It's blessed.

I'm remembering downstairs,

the cross we put up.

It was a very good idea.

It was wonderful. Thank you.

God be with you.

Let me know if you need anything.

- All the best, bye-bye.

- Okay, bye.

I see it as a great miracle

of God protecting us,

through the sign He asked me to put up.

[narrator in English]

Now the relic of the True Cross

is being carried

from the safety of the cathedral

to be witnessed by the people

whose lives have been changed by it.

[sobbing]

[Luciany in Portuguese]

So, it's a reason to be very emotional

to have the relic with us

for the first time,

wood from the cross

he was hung on to save us.

[Nicola in English] When you think

of how powerful the cross is as a symbol,

that people would

wear that around their neck,

this kind of symbol of protection.

Imagine wearing a cross

and feeling so strongly about it

and then being in the presence

of an actual piece of the True Cross

and how powerful that must be

to connect you back to Jesus Christ.

[narrator] The fragment of the True Cross

clearly has the power

to give hope to believers.

Perhaps where it can help the most

is where it's needed the most.

Rio's favelas are where

the poorest communities live.

Set up on wasteland

at the edge of the city,

over one and a half million people

live in these shanty towns.

[Cláudio dos Santos in Portuguese]

In the favelas are the people

with the greatest difficulties,

realities of suffering, of violence,

very strong in our city, you know?

The violence is

often caused by confrontations

between drug traffickers and the police.

[banging]

[Cláudio dos Santos]

And the stray b*ll*ts, right?

They prevent people

from leaving their homes.

And sometimes people are prevented

from going to their jobs.

Children are prevented

from going to school.

[Francisco] The relic of the Cross

coming out of the cathedral

into the favela,

I think it is something wonderful.

It is a relic,

a relic of the Cross

on which Jesus was crucified

and it is in our favela!

I think this relic can be

like a wake-up call,

like "What am I doing?"

[Rosa Rodrigues]

When the relic comes here,

it will touch people's hearts a lot.

And it will bring peace.

Many people need to see it happening here.

Welcome, Father.

Thank you.

[Cláudio dos Santos] I believe

that this will bring hope.

It provides, in fact, a blessing.

An opportunity, right?

Because it's the first time, you know?

[all chanting]

[in Portuguese]

May the Lord be present now,

with His cross touching the hearts,

souls and lives

of everyone in this community.

[all chanting]

With His cross touching the hearts,

souls and lives of each resident

of this community.

[Rosa] It is so beautiful.

I was very emotional.

When I first saw it,

the impact was like, "Wow!"

May this blessing extend

throughout this community,

meaning that the blood of Jesus

touches each one of us.

In the name of the Father,

the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Amen.

[Rosa] It was very important

to our community

to pass on the faith.

[Francisco] Faith has been

a little shaken dead.

So, I think that the coming

of the relic here, to the favela,

is causing an awakening of faith.

[Rosa] I saw that all of them,

even the gangsters,

they bowed when they saw the relic,

I saw that.

[Cláudio dos Santos]

There are so many difficulties,

but there is the moment of hope,

of a new life, of better days,

of protection for their life

and their families.

Oh cross, you shall save us ♪

[singing in Portuguese]

Strengthen the faith of the poor

and the sinner strengthen our hope ♪

[Cláudio dos Santos in Portuguese]

Jesus came for the people

and we too must be close to the people.

Listen to their pain, listen to their joy,

participate in every moment

of their lives.

In the path to the Lord ♪

I think that's the concept

of being a priest,

to be able to bring happiness

to people's hearts and lives.

So it's also a very strong moment,

being able to come back

here to this place.

It's the very beginning of my story

where I strongly felt

this call of God.

I didn't deserve any of this.

But God

wanted me.

[voice shaking] I don't know why,

but he wanted me.

It's hard to

It's not a cry of sadness

but it's a cry of joy,

knowing that among

so many people in this world,

God chose me.

[voice shaking]

He called me to be a priest.

And that's what touches my heart,

what makes me a happy person,

and makes me bring happiness

to other people's lives.

We have to light up people's lives

with love.

[narrator in English]

Next on Mysteries of the Faith

The story of relics in the 21st century.

[man in Italian]

A bloodied shirt with two b*llet holes

speaks to a teenager

without the need for words.

[woman in English] The church still

needs relics, still likes relics,

still creates relics to show you

that God still works

through people in the modern world.