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01x05 - Washington D.C.

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Made in Finland". Aired: April 14, 2022.*
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Based on true events, Mobile 101 is a drama series about the close calls and the uncertain first steps of a small Finnish electronics company becoming a global titan of the mobile phone industry.

01x05 - Washington D.C.

Post by bunniefuu »

Hmm?

"Dear Mr Salminen, your plan could
be feasible.

"Best regards, Pierre Gaffie,
engineer, M1 Microelectronics."

"Very urgent."

Hello. Hello.

Oui. Excuse me. Can I get two gin
and tonics, please? Yes.

Thank you.

Hello. Hi.

I'm sorry. I have the middle seat.
You might wanna...

Oh! Sorry.

That's all right. Sorry, sorry.

I'll move if there's less people.
No, it's fine. I'm sure. OK.

Ta-da!

So, flying back home, or...?

Coming from Moscow. Heading to
Frankfurt.

Then back home to Washington. Oh.

We have the same route.
So, how was Moscow?

Good. I interviewed the guy who's
opposing Gorbachev. Boris Yeltsin.

Yeah. He's a real
thorn in Gorbachev's side.

He's an interesting man, though.

I could swear he was a little drunk
when I met him.

How about you?

Well, I've...

..never been to the Soviet Union
myself. And I'm a Finn.

Really? Yeah. A Finn that's never
been in the Soviet Union?

I have not.

Even though our company's biggest
company is the Soviet Union. OK.

Aki Makkonen, from Nokia-Mobira. Ah.

Mark Johnson.
I write for the Washington Post.

Nice to meet you, Mark.
Hey, you, too.

So, Nokia? Mobile phones? Yes.

Or Tandy, as they sell them
in the States. OK.

I wonder if you can help.

This fell off and, admittedly,
it's a Hitachi, not a Nokia, so...

Yeah. Well,
as long as it's not a Motorola.

I'm not an engineer, actually,
but...

..yeah, I've seen some of these.
So here you see the antenna cover.

Mm-hm. And the power comes from here
and goes through this.

Interesting.

Cabin attendants...

Hi. Could I get some tape,
please? Of course.

And a bourbon and coke as well.
Yes. Nice choice.

Yeah, I think I can fix it. It's not
really broke.

It's a little bit loose.

Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho...

..Indiana, Iowa...

Let me help you, sir. All right.

Hey. Hello. Hi. How are you doing?
Good, thank you.

Jump in, guys.
Where do you want to go?

This is a different guy.

So, nine o'clock
sharp at the court room.

And don't be alarmed. It won't be
anything like you've seen on TV.

All right. OK. Goodnight.
Goodnight. Have a good one.

So, guys, how's travel?

Good? Yes. Flight was all right,
yeah. Very good.

Well, let me
bring you the bad news first.

Motorola is certainly going to be
very pleased with

Judge Mrs Robertson.

It's going to be challenging for us.

Her judgment has been
82% in favour of Motorola.

So we're talking about multibillion
dollar companies,

and it all comes down to one person?

I'm not saying she's biased.
I'm just giving you the facts.

All right. And what about the good
news? The hotel is fantastic.

I hear the rooms are amazing.

So, you know...

Other than that, any questions?

Oh. Actually,
could I borrow a tie, maybe?

I love you Finns.
You're, like, so innocent.

Please, of course you can.

Uh-huh.

I think it's going to be a tough
day. I can't believe he's late.

OK. Morning! Morning.

How are you? Morning. Good morning.

Morning. Morning.

OK, the translator hasn't arrived,
so let's go see if he's inside.

All right.

Well, before I forget.

Oh. Thank you.

May I introduce you Mike Hampton
from Tandy?

Aki Makkonen. Nice to meet you.
Likewise.

I have another one here for you.

I just got tickets to Spain.

Really? Yeah. Nice. All rise.

Court is now in session.

The Honourable Judge
Margaret Robertson residing.

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
Good morning. Please be seated.

Your honour, I think
we have a small problem here,

in that the translator does not
appear to be in the courtroom.

Perhaps if we proceed slowly,
at least until he gets here.

OK, we can do that.

In the case of Motorola versus
Nokia Limited,

case number 637807.

Opening statement, Motorola.

Your honour,

we would like to begin with
the first three indictment points.

They are the LED screen,
the antenna, and the overall design.

Starting with the LED screen,

we call the first witness,
Mr Lassi Forssman.

Would you state your name
for the record?

Lassi Forssman.

Mr Forssman, I've provided you with
a document marked as MNF-33...

First we take Manhattan...

..and then we take Beijing!

So my question is,

whether or not in carrying
out your responsibilities of product

development and external design,

whether or not you design a product
whose housing was inefficient,

in the sense that it would be larger
than what was necessary,

or smaller than what was necessary.

Well, you cannot design smaller unit
than the inside parts are.

I guess, you agreed yourself, that
telephones must be as small

as possible.

And in designing a product
and carrying...

Your honour, the interpreter has
arrived.

Please continue. And in designing a
product, and carrying...

Morning. Morning.

So, I noticed this
McNeil guy isn't here.

He's probably
working on another case.

Motorola uses him
as this kind of legal hit man.

He shows up and, let's just say,
we can be happy he isn't here.

Does that mean Motorola isn't
too worried about this case?

Maybe for the best.
Mr McNeil, he can be dangerous.

Yeah, you can't give him anything.
Anything.

Henrik Maki-Talo?

Mr Maki-Talo,
on the table before you,

there's an exhibit which is
marked NNF 44.

Are you familiar with that exhibit?

This is my witness
statement.

This is my witness statement.

I mean, this is my witness
statement. Yes.

Is there anything you'd like to
change in that statement?

There are a few corrections that
I would like to make.

Page number 12, paragraph 19.

100TM6950T.

This part should be deleted.

Then after that, there should be a
comma,

and M6955T, delete it.

And probably a period and not the...

Your honour, I think
it should be a period.

Mr Maki-Talo, I have a few
questions.

Why isn't the antenna on the Mobira
512 located as far

away from the head
and body as possible?

It's a Mobira product, right?

You testified there that the
standard

configuration of a keypad
is four rows with three keys.

Is that correct?

Yes. All right.

And you state that any other
arrangement would make

the unit unfamiliar,
and therefore difficult to use. Yes.

You also state that any other
arrangement would make the unit,

and I'm quoting, unfamiliar

and therefore 333 1234

212 M6

1516 M71819...

Has long has Nokia patented its own
solutions?

Isn't it true that the
Mobira 512 has

a keypad of four rows of four keys?

A car? Your honour,
this gentleman here just interrupted

a witness in the middle
of his answer.

Let's not argue among counsel.

Please address all objections to me
and not to each other.

Isn't this a direct conclusion
derived from your patent policy?

Your honour, too many questions at
one time.

I think what the witness is
referring to with this movement

of the hand is the placement
of the buttons on the phone.

I have no further questions for the
witness at this time.

And these as well.

Oh! Oh!

Hermanni Maki?

So the seller issues an offer,

which contains their general
terms of sale.

The buyer then makes an order
based on that offer,

and the buyer's offer contains the
general terms of purchase. Yes?

Yes. The seller then invoices the
buyer,

and that invoice contains the
seller's aforementioned

general terms of sale.

And this invoice is the final
document relating to the sale.

So you knew what you were buying.

Thank you, Mr Maki. That'll be all.

Alors, it would be like
a clock in a phone?

Yes, it would be connected to the
battery, but,

yes, it would work as
a clock.

How many of these do you need?

In the beginning, maybe a few
thousand. Ah.

But as the production begins,
then...then hundreds of thousands.

Non....

We would need a bigger order.

How long would it take to make a
million? OK.

Now it would be less than a year,
but things get busy for us soon.

What company is making this order?
Nokia.

Ericsson called us, too, with a
similar question,

but that is Sweden. Yes, yes.

Excuse me, but are they ordering
crystals?

Yes. They have a similar order in
mind.

I see. Could you give me five
minutes?

I'll get back to you.

Mr Henrik Maki-Talo...

..from 1982 until 1988,

you were the individual responsible
for Nokia product development?

And I still do.

And on 27th September 1988,

you attended a Nokia internal
meeting in Salo.

Is that so?

Probably. Probably.

I'm holding a copy of those minutes
in my hands, which you signed.

Do these look familiar to you?

It looks familiar. If
you turn to one of the back pages,

you'll see there is a drawing
on the back of one of them.

Did you draw it?

Would you please hold up
the drawing for the court to see?

Would you please read out
loud for the court what is

written next to the drawing?

The same component as Motorola.

Hey. Aki.

Hey, Mark. What are you doing here?
Well, top-secret.

Oh, hey. Mark. Henrik.

Nice to meet you.
Good to see you. And I am Lassi.

Nice to meet you, Lassi. Yeah.

Hey, you guys mind if I join you?

Join the party. No,
but seriously, what's the agenda?

It's a bit of a sensitive
topic at the moment, the story.

That's why I can't tell you the
details, but... Keep your secrets.

Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what,
though.

When it comes out in the Washington
Post, you can read all about it.

Sure, man. Yeah.

Are you OK? You seem
a little stressed out.

Stressed? Ah!

Why would I be stressed?
I'm just about to get fired. Oh?

But before that, I'm going to
destroy my company.

OK. Nokia?

Hmm. You're not being melodramatic?
No, it's actually true. OK.

Well, I'm intrigued.

You guys want to tell me a bit more?

What are you doing here?
Sorry, it's top-secret. OK.

Nice. You want to play that game.
Whoa!

Yeah, go ahead.

Aki here has already seen
the insides.

I still haven't been able to get
a new one. Hitachi. I haven't had
the time.

No, it was disintegrating,
and then Aki was helping me out

when we met on the plane, and he put
it back together. Oh, really?

I asked the stewardess for some
tape...

OK, so here you see the antenna
cover, and the power comes from here

and goes through this.

Interesting. Aki?

I'm sorry, I have to go.
I hope I'll see you again. Enjoy.

Taxi!

Hello. To a Radio Shack.

Thank you.

Mm-hm.

Hmm.

I'm sorry, I can't reach
Mr Makkonen. OK, thank you.

You're welcome.

Well, it's all been very well
documented in this case that

Nokia purchased the components in
question from Mutara, and therefore

any legal responsibilities fall into
the hands of the Japanese supplier.

But the responsibility
falls to the company that sells

the product to the American market.
Therefore, any legal...

Silence in the court.

Does Nokia plan to leave the United
States market?

Absolutely not, your honour.
Nokia's stance is clear.

In which case, Motorola demands
that all of the cellphones

in question be destroyed.
That's where it's starting to get...

Yeah, well, that all aside, but it's
starting to get a little unusual

here, and raising a few question
marks regarding the motivation

of Motorola as a corporation, as...

as...as...as a whole.

Excuse me, your honour.

Can we have a recess, please? OK.

Ten-minute recess. What is going
on?

I will explain.

OK. So, the same component
is in every phone.

Mutara owns the patent, not Motorola

We're going to get a copy of the
patent.

Please be seated.

So the strangeness of this case,
if you may, your honour,

is the fact that Motorola
hasn't been

bothered by any other mobile phones
or devices sold in the US...

..except for Tandy, Nokia...

It's the same component
and a patent Motorola

claims that it owns in the US.
Objection.

We've established that
Motorola owns

the patent for the component in
question here in the United States.

Your honour, it's also noteworthy
that Motorola sells the

component and patent that
Mutara owns.

They've been collecting
profits for many,

many years, at the same time that
it's been selling

mobile phones all over the globe,
and collecting royalty. Objection.

Your honour, this case
is about patent infringement,

not about marketplace competition.

I will soon prove that Motorola's
indictment is groundless.

Totally.

We have already provided evidence
here to the fact that Nokia's

innovation is actually older in
several points in the indictment,

and as previously mentioned, it is
a Mutara component.

We have actually just received
the patent here... Objection.

We have not received any such
document as evidence. Wait a second.

I just want to make sure
I understand this correctly.

Motorola's lawyers have actually not

laid their eyes on the patent
which is older than Motorola's?

It's the same component that they
themselves use in their own

phones and claim that Nokia is using
without authorisation.

I'm a bit shocked, if I may.

Your honour, we will prove that
Motorola's indictment is groundless.

In fact, this indictment contains
a series of unfounded claims,

dubious claims.

We should be investigating what
Motorola has

perpetrated with this indictment.

The court is in recess.
We shall examine the documents.

Katarina.

Wow. That was impressive. Where the
hell did that come from?

Are we supposed to be talking about
the case? You're right.

I just wanted to say, you might be
looking for a new job soon,

and have you considered working
here in the States?

We could really use someone like
you. Someone like me? A fighter.

A real fighter.

The thing is,
I am not ready to give up yet.

Not on the case, not on Nokia.

Of course not.

I was just throwing it out there.

You know, in case you change
your mind.

Yeah. Well, who knows?

Maybe someday.

And I promise, you'll be the first
to know.

Katarina. Congratulations.
That was absolutely amazing.

That was fantastic. Congratulations.
Wonderful. A wonderful outcome.

We should celebrate. Yes, please.

Absolutely. Absolutely. You're the
lady of this evening. No!

It was quite amazing. Yeah.

I didn't see that coming.

Hello. Jorma Ollila speaking.