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08x04 - A Bull With No Horns

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Formula 1: Drive to Survive". Aired: 8 March 2019 – present.*
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Behind-the-scenes look at the drivers and races of the Formula One World Championship.

08x04 - A Bull With No Horns

Post by bunniefuu »

I've got a lot of understeer.

Liam Lawson's out of the Grand Prix.

Sorry, guys.

I just need more time.

Liam Lawson takes that 12th place.

Oh my God, man.

This is bad news for Red Bull.

In this business, to succeed,
sometimes you've got to take action.

Liam Lawson has been fired from Red Bull

and demoted
back to junior team Racing Bulls.

Are you kidding me? Two races?!

I don't see how it's anything

other than a huge embarrassment
for Red Bull.

Um, right. Shall we do this shirt change?

Nah, it's all right, mate. It's all right.

It's a total farce.

Two races?

I've never seen anything like it
in Formula 1.

The pressure is just ramped on that team.

I mean, everybody's got an opinion,

but... do we listen?

No.

The wheels are coming off at Red Bull.

Can Christian turn it around?

Or is he out of time?

- Okay, so hello is...
- Konnichiwa.

Gotta do that. That's what people love.

When you're warming up,
like, "Konnichiwa!"

And then you... And then "Konnichiwa!"

Like that. Give me the big'un.

- Hello.
- Hey.

Konnichiwa!

Konnichiwa!

- Konnichiwa!
- Konnichiwa!

Konnichiwa!

Konnichiwa!

Hey. How are you?

- Good. You?
- Very good.

How's the storm?

Yeah, so far okay.

- I don't mean the wind.
- Yeah.

- Hello.
- You okay?

I'm okay.

- Let's go straight.
- Okay.

Maybe they feel like
I wasn't ready for it.

And obviously, they made the decision,
and that's obviously their opinion. Um...

From my side, I was ready.
I just didn't have enough time.

I was pretty disappointed.

For it to all be sort of decided
in two races didn't feel right.

Have you spoken to Max about the decision?

Be honest.

Uh, he... He didn't agree with it. Um...

But at the end of the day,
it wasn't up to him.

- Hi.
- Hello.

Hello. How's it going?

- Hi there.
- Come on in.

- How's it going?
- How are ya?

Yeah, obviously telling any driver
that there's gonna be a change

and you're taking him out of the seat
is always gonna be difficult

and not the news they wanna hear.

Three, two, one, action.

Okay, great. And we'll get
another one of those with the smile.

This isn't a popularity contest.
It's Formula 1.

But you can argue it was
a hugely popular decision in Japan.

Because within the pool of drivers
that we have...

there is an obvious candidate.

Yuki! Yuki!

Ooh!

Nice shirt.

New shirt, new team, you know.

This material, I think,
makes me quite bigger.

Rookie Tsunoda on a flying lap.

Yuki Tsunoda is fast.

Another good overtake from Yuki Tsunoda.

That was absolutely brilliant!

He's also one of the most wild.

Let's f*cking go, man.

He's got a sense of humor
that is on the edge sometimes.

Oh no!

You're so kind. Thank you.
Thank you very, very much.

Really appreciate it.

Are you gonna bring it in
for me as well? Yeah, thanks, thanks.

Are you serious?

Yuki, gotta pick a horse
for the sweepstake.

- Big race in England.
- What is this?

- Pick a horse, and then it's a sweepstake.
- Grand National, mate.

Who have you got?

- Ooh, 33-1.
- It's 33 to 1.

Tell you what,
if you qualify in the top ten today,

you can ride one of my horses.

Really? You serious?

- Yeah, yeah.
- Okay.

Okay, I've got you.

Who is it?

Monbeg Genius.

- Monbeg Genius.
- Yeah, it's not bad.

- Good luck.
- Okay, Yuki, 17th.

- Okay.
- Have fun.

Oh, radio. Cheeky.

Switching to Red Bull
at my home Grand Prix,

it's a dream come true.

Me, I'm special.

You're a special guy
how you keep telling me that.

Especially after four years in VCARB.

Did you just flip off VCARB?

I'm sure that how the people
look at me now is a bit different.

Did you text Liam
after you got the news, or speak to him?

No.

His arse?
Yeah, it's so big. It's so funny.

You like my arse?

Especially with this pose.

Hey, I've got bigger ba*ls, I guess.

I don't know about that one, but...

Yeah.

There he is. Konnichiwa.

- How are you? You all right?
- I'm okay. Yeah.

- How are things?
- Yeah, not bad.

I'll probably have to throw the... the...

Helmut on the BBC earlier
said Max isn't happy, you know.

- Max isn't what?
- He's not happy with...

Well, you know, he's...
I don't know what he meant by that.

I think there's a lot of negativity
around Max is unhappy. Max is...

- I... He... Yeah.
- He's...

Like any racing driver, they're always
grumpy when they're not winning.

Red Bull lost
the Constructors' Championship in 2024.

That is the most important championship.

That's where
the prize fund money comes from

that keeps that team on the racetrack.

They lost because they only had
one car scoring points.

Christian needs someone
in that second seat

alongside Max Verstappen

that can score points consistently,

or senior figures at Red Bull
won't be happy.

Christian is answerable
to a board in Austria.

And that's run by Oliver Mintzlaff.

With Helmut Marko as his advisor.

I guess the other question is
what happens if it doesn't work with Yuki?

Look, I've got a feeling that Yuki'll...
I think he... he... he'll do all right.

He'll do all right. He seems to be...

Yuki! Yuki! Yuki! Yuki!
Yuki! Yuki! Yuki! Yuki!

Yeah, you know what to do.

Yep.

First race in Red Bull Racing.

In front of the Japanese fans.

They are very, very passionate.

There's an expectation from the team
to score points.

Obviously, I have pressure
that I have to prove that.

Okay, smile. You're on Netflix.

Yuki's got to showcase
that he's the right caliber

to be alongside Max this year.

Right, let's see what we've got.

Max Verstappen starting on pole

with the fastest ever lap we've seen here.

Radio check.

Loud and clear.

Yuki Tsunoda starts 14th.

Pressure on Yuki to finish in the top ten
and score points in that second Red Bull.

Yuki! Yuki! Yuki!

Yuki, release was good.

Copy.

It's a good pace, Max.
Keep it up. Norris behind.

Lando, just keep putting Max
under pressure.

Confirm.

Yuki, car ahead, Fernando. Let's get him.

Copy.

Watch out Tsunoda.

Okay.

Yeah, we are too slow
on the straight, man.

Way too slow.

Yuki, push. Everything you've got here.

That worked out all right.
Right behind him now.

Come on, boy.

Tight with Tsunoda.

It's hard to overtake.

I felt like the grip felt quite poor.

f*ck.

Oh, what's he doing?

It's not gone well for Yuki Tsunoda,

failing to make an impact
on his debut for Red Bull.

Can Verstappen hold on to first place?

Max, Norris behind.

He's picked up his pace a little bit.

Lando, this is the last lap.

Opportunity.

Yeah, I think so.

Yeah, I can't get any closer.

Max Verstappen
wins the Japanese Grand Prix!

Whoa! Ha!

Thank you, guys. Wow.

Oh, mate, what an unbelievable weekend.

Yuki, yeah, I'm afraid that's us, P12.

P12.

That was a tough day today.

Sorry, guys.

Yeah, I think the pace was there, but...

So finishing order, Max, P1.

Yeah, congrats. Congrats, guys.

Sorry we couldn't get you points
for your home race.

Not now.

Yeah, not a great race.

Not the result I wanted.

At least I wanted to finish in the points
this weekend, so, uh, yeah.

It's a home Grand Prix, you know?
It's, uh... It's once a year, so...

Considering that, it's a bit... bit tough.

There'll be a panic at Red Bull
over that second seat.

You know, was it the right decision
in getting rid of Liam?

Only Max seems capable of scoring points.

That's gonna get the board worried.

Hey, Max. How are you?
Well done for Suzuka. Amazing weekend.

Do you still feel that, uh
with the second car,

you are able to defend the title?

Uh, no. No, no.

We definitely need to improve
to be able to fight for, uh... for a title.

Where do you think the car is gonna be
in terms of drivability

here at this track?

So far this year, the car
has not been, um, our strongest point,

to be honest.

But it's not just that second seat
that's a problem.

Here's Max Verstappen.

I have no tire grip at all.

I can't even brake anymore.
It's just ridiculous.

Our car is proving to be
a bit of a diva at the moment.

There is definitely potential in the car,

but to extract it is... is tough.

Oh dear, big lockup. Lap wrecked.

f*ck's sake, man.

When you've got a driver
like Max Verstappen

that's the only person
really scoring points for the team,

there's pressure to say,

"Come on, we've got to give him
a car that's capable of doing that."

Okay, Max, P6.

Oh my God, that was difficult. Jesus.

A tough afternoon in the office,
so we have plenty to go away and look at.

Yeah.

How worried are you
about him thinking about his future,

and perhaps thinking
about leaving the Red Bull team?

I am very worried,

and as I’ve already said,

we need to see improvements
in the very near future,

so we again have a car
that he can win with.

Helmut's doing interviews.

- Really?
- Yeah.

And it's like
two or three, like, off-the-cuff remarks.

Helmut, he's a cunning old fox.

He will use the media to assert pressure.

Sometimes it's very unhelpful.

This week, Helmut Marko says
he fears your Red Bull exit.

- Why is he saying that?
- I don't know.

So you're not thinking
of leaving Red Bull at any time?

No, I think just focus on commentating.
I'll focus on driving.

And then, you know, you don't need
to think about any other scenarios.

We just worry about you.

The thing is,
he cannot answer the question

about why is Marko
saying what he's saying,

because it gives the game away.

He can't answer
any of the questions about his future.

The fact that he can't answer it

means there is some semblance
of truth to it.

Yeah.

Course there is. He's got an exit clause.

There's a lot of chat
about Max having an exit clause.

Is that true?

I think there are certain criteria
within his agreement

that... that there's certain benchmarks
that we have to achieve.

That will be what, you know, dictates
the outcome of whether he stays or not.

So it's really crucial
to turn things around.

I don't wanna let McLaren
beat us in either championship, so...

That would be a big disappointment
if that were to happen.

Yeah.

But it's much worse
than anybody had expected.

The relationship between
Christian and Jos Verstappen,

Max's father and essentially his manager,

is terrible.

Let's just say they don't see eye to eye
and they haven't for some time.

The Verstappens hold a lot of power
within the corridors of Red Bull Racing.

If he determines that things aren't going
in the direction that benefits his son,

then he'll move to extricate him.

That's gonna get the board shaking.

Do you think Christian's worried
about the rumors?

I don't think Max was built to finish...
What was it? Sixth last race.

I know he's got an exit clause
in his contract,

so I would imagine
he would jump if he can.

Red Bull doesn't seem to be
a very happy place at the moment.

Everyone seems to have their knives out
for each other inside that racing team.

But he comes off so arrogant.
I'm sure he sees that as no big deal.

But when you put 'em all together
and look at how they're doing,

it looks like a big deal to me.

Max, Norris behind.

Agh, it's super slippery to drive.

I can't hold this much longer.

Each and every race that goes by,

there is pressure from every angle.

Lando Norris
has squeezed ahead of Max Verstappen.

What the f*ck?

Okay, Yuki, so two laps to go.

The pace is incredibly slow.

It's just ridiculous.

Max Verstappen
has to settle for fourth place.

Hard luck today.
We just weren't quick enough.

What finish?

P10.

And once again, it is McLaren in Miami.

The walls are closing in
on Christian Horner.

Red Bull are potentially falling here.

Good job, Yuki. Keep on going.

Keep up the pace.

You all right, Yuki?

Yuki?

Yep.

If you've never been to the
Austrian Grand Prix, this'll be a surprise

but you cannot order a Coke

within, like,
a five-mile radius of the track.

The only thing they have on the menu
is a Red Bull Cola.

It's Red Bull country.

It's wild.

Undoubtedly, it's the most important race
of the season for Red Bull.

Cool, thank you.

Christian needs a headline result.

Austria is the home race of Red Bull.

You've got all the shareholders there.

There's always that added pressure.

There's always noise in Formula 1.

And you know, we're at a point of the year

where there are... you know, there are
performance clauses in... in contracts

that inevitably, you know,

people become aware of,
and they get used and played and...

Some of it, I'm sure, is done to unsettle.

Earlier this year, you said

you were not going to flirt
with the idea of signing Max.

So has something changed
in the last few months,

either from your side or Red Bull's side?

Define flirting.

Have you been in contact with Max's team?

- Yes.
- What can you tell us?

Certainly, when a four-time
world champion, um, appears to be free,

then that is a conversation
I need to have.

Is there any chance
Max could be at Mercedes next year?

There's always a chance.

A question to Max. Are you going to be
driving for Red Bull Racing next year?

Yeah, I don't think
we need to talk about that.

Thank you. All right, next.

You know you're not gonna get
a long answer from Max, so...

Why is Toto
deliberately putting into the ether

that he's interested in Max Verstappen?

He can see the cracks,

and he can see
that Christian's on shaky ground.

So you know what? Ramp the pressure up.

Carmen and I have been playing around
with making skincare products.

Pretty good.
The first batch smelled like semen.

This is the second batch,
which is slightly better, so...

It's much improved.

I'm not selling the product
very well here whatsoever.

So there's a lot of noise in the media.
A lot of noise.

I think they've just been waiting to
sort of see where the land falls with Max.

But the Verstappens clearly have
a lot of power in that team.

They like to manipulate situations
quite a lot.

For whatever reason,
they don't like Horner.

They're trying to get Horner out.

Um, and I sort of just wonder

if all of this is a bit of a...

a play and a stir.

So trying to put pressure on Red Bull

that he'll only continue with Red Bull
if Christian's gone.

When the pressure cooker of Formula 1

just almost feels like
it's reaching boiling point...

it's a very lonely place to be.

I built this team.
I've been there since the beginning.

What you see is what you get with me,

and that maybe
doesn't sit comfortably with others,

particularly in this paddock,

because I think others know
that they can't manipulate me.

We've won 14 World Championships,
over 100 pole positions.

I won't roll over.

After a disastrous
qualifying for Red Bull,

Max Verstappen starts in P7.

Yuki Tsunoda
at the back of the grid in 18th.

- Ten seconds.
- Copy.

Oh, for f*ck's sake.

So mad.

f*cking idiots.

Okay, uh, Max,

please switch the car off
before you get out.

Sorry about that.

Yuki Tsunoda continues
in that second Red Bull.

He is Red Bull's only hope
for points here.

Tell me if I'm doing anything wrong.

Yep, copy. Head down. Let's get moving.

Oh, Tsunoda just crashed into me.

Yes, mate, we saw.

Okay, Yuki, for info,

we've been given a ten-second penalty
for the collision with Colapinto.

Lando Norris wins the Austrian Grand Prix!

- Well done.
- Well done, everyone.

Best finish of the season for Liam Lawson.

Yes, mate, P6.

Yeah, copy, man. Well done.

What a weekend.

Yuki Tsunoda, 16th and last,

compounding a really terrible day
for Red Bull.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, not a day to remember.

For f*ck's sake.

What a day.

I don't know.

What can we do with Yuki?

- I think he's totally lost.
- Lost.

Totally and utterly lost.

Thank you, guys.

The difference in points now with Max...

Russell has scored ten,
so it's nine points.

Yeah.

I can't remember a race so...
so disappointing.

Perfect for Toto, though.

Yeah, I am a little bit worried.

Yeah.

Can you just talk to us about
how you remedy this second-seat struggle

and make sure
that second driver is up there

so that you are able
to capitalize on something

when Max Verstappen,
who's right behind us now, um,

has an unfortunate day like today?

So, obviously, Austria didn't go so well.

Yeah.

After the Austrian Grand Prix,

we turned up at Silverstone,

and Max qualified on pole

but ended up finishing fifth.

Twenty-four hours later,

I was contacted
to attend a meeting in London.

That was where they informed me
that, operationally, I was no longer,

from that moment onwards,
involved in the running of

the Red Bull Formula 1 team.

We have learned that
Christian Horner has been sacked

by Red Bull.

He is to leave them with immediate effect.

Hey, darling.

All... All done and dusted.

That was it.

Thank you very much.

Yeah.

Anyway,

onwards and upwards.

I feel a real sense of loss and hurt.

It was all rather sudden.

I didn't really get a chance
to say a... a proper goodbye.

- How do you feel?
- How do I feel? Um...

I never imagined to be in this position.

Of course, your immediate reaction

when you get delivered
a sh*t sandwich like that is,

like, f*ck them.

I've had something taken away from me
that wasn't my choice,

that... that was very precious to me.

But you thought it was gonna happen.

We came back from Austria,

and I remember
you sat on the bed one night and went,

"Something really bad's gonna happen."

- Said they were gonna fire you.
- Yeah.

Yeah.

You haven't got
any of the data here, really.

Well, normally, I'd have
a whole bunch of noise in my ears.

So it's like you're blind.

...double spot
in the top ten. That's so costly...

I feel a bit, like...

...sixth place in the championship,
which they head by...

Now I feel a bit sad watching this.

I only ever gave my best.

I did my best for my team,
for the people that I represented,

but performance this year
hasn't been as strong as previously.

Was it anything
to do with the Verstappens?

His father has never been my biggest fan.

You know, he's been outspoken,
you know, about me.

But I don't believe that the Verstappens
were responsible in any way.

I think this was a decision
that was made by Oliver Mintzlaff,

you know, with Helmut, um,
advising from the... from the sideline.

I... I... I think, ultimately, you know,

things changed within the business,
within the group.

You know, the founder died.

And, you know, after Dietrich's death,

I think probably I was deemed to,

you know, to have maybe...
maybe too much control.

Was it your decision
to swap Liam with Yuki?

It wasn't my choice.

I was always pushed to take drivers
from the young driver program.

Helmut w-was a big driver in it.

Are you gonna eat your feelings?

No, but that one is really good.

The reality is that for me,
over the last 20 years,

on the good days and the bad days,

it's... Look, it's been an epic journey.

He's just doing that!

You won't... Stop it!

You're such a twat.

Red Bull have done it
for their first ever Formula 1 win!

Great job, Sebastian!

There's a happy man. Christian Horner!

It's the end of an era. You think about
Red Bull, you think about Christian.

Pull!

Come on!

- Every podium they've stood on.
- That was epic.

Amazing.

Every driver they've signed.

Every driver that was let go.

Christian was behind it all.

Hello, Christian.

Welcome to Red Bull!

Love the guy...

I'll squeeze Toto's bollocks.

...or hate the guy...

You've got a problem.
Change your f*cking car.

I could have him in a fight.

...you cannot deny

the level of success
that he achieved at that team.

You are the World Champion!

The World Champion!

We've achieved heights
that others could only dream about.

Yes! Yes!

There's been a rivalry.
There's been a competitiveness.

I enjoyed every minute of that.

Have you heard from Toto?

He said, uh, "I didn't know what to say."

He said, "Because on one side,
you've been a real arsehole."

"But on the other hand, the sport
will miss one of its main protagonists."

"'Who should I fight and love to hate?'
as you always said."

"Wolff and Horner have a combined



"Not a bad joint statistic."

And I responded to him,

"I've loved locking horns with you

all these years."

"So thank you for the rivalry,
the competition, the needle."

"No one else even came close,
as the statistics point out."

"I wish you the very best for the future."

"P.S. You need a haircut."

I think we're done. For now.

Okay. Very good.

When you get beaten by a teammate
almost every race,

it's very frustrating.

Stupid, guys.

What the f*ck was that?

The brakes are on fire.

Critical.

Come on!

Las Vegas is unbelievably special.
You wanna put on a good show.

Is my belly poking out?

I don't have my pass.

They're under investigation.

Netflix are filming behind.

- They might be in trouble.
- Gonna be a sh*t show, isn't it?