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01x11 - Julie Thinks Kevin is Psycho!

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "The Real World". Aired: May 21, 1992 – August 29, 2019.*
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Seven to eight young adults are picked to temporarily live in a new city together in one residence while being filmed non-stop.

01x11 - Julie Thinks Kevin is Psycho!

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Previously on

The real world...

Yeah, I think you're

Very bitter.

You know, I was like, "well,

I'm not bitter," but when I

Think about it now,

You know, I think I have a right

To be very angry.

First of all, I'm not going out

Of my way any more than I

Already do.

I'm saying at least try to

Understand where I'm coming

From, know what I'm saying?

How can you expect me to?

Julie, you always like to

Give the impression that we

Fight with you constantly,

And I've always thought we got

Along really well.

Poor julie was--julie's

A mess.

She was so grumpy.

I've never seen her that grumpy.

This is the true story...

True story.

Of seven strangers...

[Laughter]

Picked to live in a loft...

And have their lives taped...

To find out what happens...

What?

When people stop

Being polite...

Could you get the phone?

And start getting real.

The real world.

[Dog barks]

[Jazz music]



I think it's really obvious

After living with kevin that he

Was capable of some physical

Violence, you know, and that

Women would not be a factor,

You know, that he would not take

That into consideration.

I mean I can--i do.

He was really

Throwing things?

He took one of them candlesticks

And threw it at you?

No, one of those super

Heavy ones.

One of those big ones,

Because when I came in here,

I saw it.

What?

I saw something all out

Of place.

I was like, "what is that?"

He didn't throw it at me.

He just like--

Like what?

If you would have charged him,

He would have hit you with

It or something?

Are you kidding me?

Regardless, whether or not, this

Was in his hand ready to

Hit you?

Like that he even thought

About that?

Yes! Yes.

I knew--i was, like, I can

Handle, you know, a black eye

For this, you know.

I understand that you're gonna

Hit me, but--

[Sighs]

I love this show, but I'm not

Going to a [...] Funeral.

Julie was really, really

Upset and hysterical, and for

Someone to be like that,

Something serious must

Have happened.

I just picked up the phone

And said, "who's on the phone,"

And he said, "kevin."

I said, "well, who are you

Talking to?"

He said, "none of

Your business."

I said, "well, hurry,"

And hung up.

I mean, and it just escalated

Because he was, "well, [...]

You, julie," and I was like,

"Well, no, then [...]

You, kevin."

[Mumbling]

He was like, "mind your

Manners," or something, and I

Said, "why, you don't ever mind

Your manners to anybody in

This whole place."

And it just--

And then what did he say?

It just went off from there.

You know, "you're gonna have to

Suck my [...]," And all this--

He said that to you?

And so what did you say?

You know, "[...] You, kevin.

I haven't done [...]."

You know you're the one with--

You know, who's done

Everything," and he was like, "I

Mean, if you ever do

That again"--

I was like, "what, you're gonna

Hit me?

What? Just what?"

He was like, "I'm gonna break

Every one of your [...] Fingers,

And I'm gonna do this, that, and

The other," and he starts

Slamming [...].

I was like, "just get out.

Just get out," and he was like,

"No, you better just get out."

And so, like, he left, and he

Came back and--

He left?

He went out the door?

He went out the door, and he

Like fixed the lock on the door

And just start beating the door.

[Sighs]

He's got a problem.

It ain't ours.

It's gonna be.

It was mine for a while.

It's gonna be my problem,

I'll tell you that, when I see

Him tonight.

That's [...] Up.

But then it's...

Julie and kevin were the only

Ones in the apartment.

They're the only ones that

Really know what happened, and

There's two stories.

This is very nice.

Thanks.

I like this.

I like this.

Oh, good. You're smiling.

He's smiling, kevin.

Finally, you know.

[Laughs]

Finally, finally.

You know, sam and everybody

In the read say I should teach

You humility.

Really?

Yeah.

Are you serious?

Sam said to teach

Him humility?

Yes.

That's hysterical.

Yeah, right?

That's really hysterical.

I was thinking about it when I

Was sitting in the meeting with

My editor and stuff, but it was

Like, you know--it was to me,

Was like another argument that,

You know, it just happened

That--it was just the first

Argument I had with julie.

I was working at f.p.g., And

I get this report that kevin had

Spit and threw things into

Julie's face.

And I took julie's side of the

Story, and I accused kevin

Of it.

It's no disrespect.

There might be misunderstanding,

But there is no--you've got in

Your head that everyone is

Disrespecting you.

No, I'm saying--no, I'm not.

You've been here from day one

Saying, "you've disrespected me.

You disrespected me."

No, I'm not. No, I'm not!

You pinned me down on

That argument.

Pinned you down?

Only because you pin

Yourself down.

No!

You want to yell at me the

Whole time?

Are you gonna yell at me the

Whole time?

[Indistinct arguing]

Sicilian blood in me is like

Rushing up to my head, and I can

Fell myself going to explode

Like vesuvius.

[Imitates expl*si*n]

I'm like--

"Ahh."

Don't touch me.

How would you feel if I got

On the phone when your on the

Phone with bruce--

Wait a minute. Let me finish.

Will you listen, please?

Do you know how to listen?

Well--

Do you know how to listen?

You need to calm down.

First of all, you were not

Here, norman.

You were not here.

That's the first thing.

Secondly, she picked up the

Phone with an attitude, norman.

You understand what I'm saying?

I'm on the phone with somebody

From a record company 'cause I'm

Desperate to find a job.

My teaching gig ends this month.

I have no more checks coming.

I have nothing coming.

I have to find a job for

The summer.

The guy's like, "what the [...]

Is this?

You're not serious about a job."

Click!

Do you understand what I'm

Saying, norman?

Click!

I felt like norman took her side

Immediately, you know, and,

Like, there was no question in

His mind that I was this person

Who did all these things that

Julie said I did.

You don't even know.

You weren't here.

Do you understand what

I'm saying?

One person's word against

Another, yet you side with one

Other person--someone else's

Side, the other person's side.

Why?

Because if I were to be

Brought into a court and they

Were to ask me specific

Questions like, "well, did this

Happen with kevin?

This happen with kevin?

This happen with kevin?"

That's all I know of kevin,

And I would have to say "yes."

I would have to say "yes."

But stop.

You just said, "that's all you

Know of kevin."

That's all I know of kevin.

That's all you know, a

Pattern of aggressive behavior.

That's all you know about me

Out of these / months?

I mean, I'm not gonna sit

Here and turn out just, "yeah, I

Had this conversation with

Kevin, and I figured it all

Out, julie."

I mean, i--you know--i have to

Communicate with her.

I'm as angry right now when I

Speak with her.

So where's julie?

I don't know where she is.

[Frantic piano music]



Oh, oh, oh, no.

Where's julie?

Julie?

Julie.

I really need to know

What happened.

What?

I really need to know exactly

What happened.

What do you want to know?

Tell him the whole story.

I just accused him of having

You be challenged with this

Object and being spit at in the

Face, and I need to know.

He was throwing candlesticks.

I was throwing candlesticks.

You didn't throw this?

No, julie.

You're bugging.

That you threw this, and this

Went into the air.

You're bugging.

How did this get on

The ground?

I have no idea.

How did this get on the

Ground, kevin?

When I went out of the

Apartment, it may have fell

Down, julie.

Did he spit at you?

Yes.

You're lying.

How did it start, julie?

What did you do, julie?

I picked up the phone, and I

Said, "who's on the phone?"

That's not what you

Said, julie.

What did I say?

"The call ain't important."

Something like that, and

You cursed.

No, you told me she said,

"[...] You," and twice, once up

There and once here.

You didn't?

Yes, I just--[...] You, I

Didn't say, "[...] You" on the

Phone, and you didn't say, "suck

My [...]" To me?

Julie, after I tried to

Explain to you that I was on the

Phone with someone who was

Trying to get me a job for the

Summer, you said--

Kevin--

What did you say, julie?

You--you were like, "I don't--it

Doesn't make a difference."

Know what I'm saying?

And you didn't even apologize.

No, I didn't.

You didn't think anything was

Wrong with that?

Kevin--

You don't think anything was

Wrong with that?

No, I don't.

I don't care what you said

To anyone.

As much as you have done

To everybody in this place?

No, kevin, I'm not gonna say,

"I'm sorry, kevin."

Two different

Perceptions, girlfriend.

You know, we got, what, a

Week and a half more, and if

This is how you want to go out,

That's fine.

No, all I'm saying--no, no,

No, all I'm saying--

All I'm saying is don't get

The [...] Near me--

All I'm saying and don't--

The way that I got the

Picture and the way that I saw

Things happen from when you

First told me about, you know,

Like, what happened, I

Definitely believe you.

Well, I mean, I don't--

You know, I don't want to be

Like, "oh, you know, this is my

Story, and I'm telling the

Truth, you know.

Come, you know--"

Right.

You know, you can believe

Whatever you want, or you can

Just stay totally out of it.

I don't care.

All I know is, you know, I don't

Ever want to be left alone with

Him again, ever.

I understand that.

And that's, you know,

Basically I think what it comes

Down to.

Like, this isn't the first

Time that we've seen him go at

Somebody, you know?

[Dramatic music]



[Phone ringing]

It's just been a crazy day.

Are you okay?

Yeah, I'm fine.

You sure?

Yeah.

I miss you every day,

Not just easter.

Oh, dad, I love you.

Okay, well, then your money

Holding out all right?

I'm fine.

What, I mean, you hold this--

It's holding out, right?

Yeah.

You get a check today?

No.

Well, you should get

It tomorrow.

Okay, thanks.

Bye.

If you don't get that camera off

Me, I'm just gonna die.

Do not think that julie

Is making this story up.

I mean, it's just so--

I mean, I just can't see

Julie--i can't see that in

Julie, you know what I mean?

I mean, "kevin--i just wanted to

Knock him out," because you

Have--well, how could you just

Go and say something like that?

Like, he got into her face like

This and is like, "it's my word

Against yours."

I mean, when somebody says that

To somebody else, that means

That--to me, or the way that

I've grown up and people have

Said that--that they're trying

To get out of something that

They did.

You don't say that unless you're

Trying to pull yourself out of a

Hole, and I've tried to pull

Myself out of a million holes.

And those are the kinds of

Things that you say, and that's

Why I'm really for julie.

And that's why I can't

Believe kevin.

He's got no problems

Standing up straight because

Kevin powell uses words for

Wheels, direct, head-on,

Eyeball-to-eyeball.

With kevin powell, here

He comes.

[Cheers and applause]

This is called "mental

Terrorism," and I think all of

Us in here are going through

That [...].

"Call me a stupefied stoic,

However the world's bloody palms

Have yet to clutch my face

In pity.

What is to be locked away

In the imagination of kidnappers

And unwanted and unappreciated

Spoil of w*r.

Underdog.

Oh where, oh where can my

Underdog be?

Bart simpson and arsenio hall,

In that order, are the only

Two friends I have left, they

Will soon become bigger than all

The gods in ancient africa,

Forget that humankind exists

Day-to-day.

Can I cry in living color?

From buckwheat to the homeboy

Shopping network, will the

n*gro ever learn the concept of

Self-respect?

Rhythmic american poetry, you

Hear it, and you think of me

Trapped in a concrete box,

Begging to be released so that I

Can told , times, 'well, you

Have a nice resume, but--'

How many 'buts' can one man

Have anyway?

And some of you have the nerve

To condemn the homeless.

All I want is the opportunity to

Have an opportunity.

Where does one run to when stuck

In the promised land?

Don't touch that flag!

It's live campaign ammunition.

N.e.a. Stands for nazism

Entering america via

Congressional doors.

Too bad and too live for the

Average citizen who hasn't read

Machiavelli or tricky dicky

Nixon's lips.

Censoring is moral mccarthyism,

The 's version of the

l*nch m*b.

Big brother's watching you

Watching me.

I can't stop writing in spite of

My fears.

Who cares?

It's getting--it's getting--it's

Getting kind of hectic, but I've

Got the power to break out of

This cage at any moment."

[Cheers and applause]

And I know how it feels, and

All you really need is for

Someone to just get your mind

Off of everything that happened

And just to laugh and giggle

And--you know, like, I felt, you

Know, that julie needed that.

You really look funny.

You're cracking me up.

New identity.

♪ I got them alabama blues

♪ For julie and her shoes

♪ Mama needs a brand-new pair

♪ Of shoes-oo-oo

[Cat calling]

New identity.

♪ I was in the shower

♪ And I couldn't wash my back ♪

Eric took care of me that

Whole day really.

You know, he wasn't gonna let me

Be sad.

He was gonna go to any extreme

To cheer me up even if it was

Playing andre's guitar with a

Hat on or acting like a chicken.

[Imitating chicken clucking]

You're the guy from the

See and say.

[Imitating chicken clucking]

That is a chicken.

You know how they kick dirt?

[Imitates chicken clucking]

[Bouncy hip-hop music]



Yesterday I went to jersey

City with kaseemi.

That's pretty much where I grew

Up at, and I just wanted her to,

You know, check out where I

Came from.

I guess I kind of want to check

Out where I came from too.

Yo, old school.

Just like old times.

Oh, man, what are you doing

Next saturday?

Nothing, just hanging loose.

Let me give you this address.

I just want you to come to this

Birthday party I'm having, man.

My friend eric, we grew

Up together.

We were like best buddies.

You know, he's a survivor.

That's, like, the thing, just

Surviving, you know?

[Bouncy hip-hop music]



So you know why we moved out

Of here?

'Cause, like, that's the

Building right there, where

Those people are standing at.

We had this pimp living in

Our building.

Used to be all kinds of [...]

Going on.

This was my block for a while.

Give me your hand.

What's wrong?

[Bouncy hip-hop music]



It helps to stop the bus, babe.

Oh, my.



Hey, how are you doing?

What's going on, kevin?

"When did we stop counting black

Folks as / of a human being?"

Seems like you're taking this

Out on us.

Us who?

The people who you live with.

No.

No?

I live, like, elsewhere

Besides here.

Oh, yeah, I know, but this

Is up here, though.

Yeah, and?

I think people either are part

Of the problem, part of

Solution, you know?

All my [...] Aside that we've

Been talking about all these

/ Months, you know, to me,

It all came out yesterday.

You know what I'm saying?

This country is r*cist as hell.

You know what I'm saying?

That's the reality, and the way

I was accused of, you know, one,

Spitting in someone's face, and

Then two, picking up something

That I don't even know what it

Is, you know, and threatening to

Hit somebody with it, you know?

I don't think that had to do

Anything with you being

Black, though.

[Laughs]

Andre--

Do you think that had to do--

Everything.

That's--that is the

Cause of--

A lot of it, yes, because,

You know--listen, andre, from my

Perspective, whenever a black

Person, including myself, has an

Opinion, is assertive about it

Or is aggressive about it, we

Become threatening to

White people.

There is racism, but you

Can't go about it by, you know,

By just--like--these signs here.

I mean, what--because it's

Just--you're telling the wrong

People, man.

Who here is r*cist?

[Laughs]

What is racism to you?

It involves control, man.

Okay, now, what--who here is

Trying to control you?

Everybody in this apartment,

You know, who is white, has the

Possibility of becoming r*cist

If they fall into the traps of

This society.

Well, are you saying white

People are the only people

That--who can be r*cist?

No, to me, racism and

Prejudice are two

Different things.

Prejudice mean to prejudge, and

A lot of black people

Are prejudiced.

I have my own prejudices.

I'm not even gonna lie; I came

Into this situation

With prejudices.

Some of them have been proven

Out, some of them haven't been.

You know, some of them have been

Discounted, you know what

I mean?

You know, like, I was like,

"Julie, she's from alabama."

You know, typical [...].

She's proven, you know, that

She's the opposite of a lot of

Things that were in my head.

I felt like I had really

Bad timing when I walked in.

You know, kevin was there, and

There was, of course,

Incredible tension.

You know, everybody's just kind

Of looking, and so I wasn't

Gonna go out of my way to be

Rude to kevin or ignore him.

So I just sat down next to him,

And he writes his little notes,

You know, on his hand, "you want

To talk?"

I was like, "well, sure, you

Know, I can talk to you until

The cows come home.

That's not a problem.

Let's talk," but of course,

Kevin can't talk in the loft.

He has to go out to the street

For some reason.

He just feels like that's a lot

Better, so okay, we'll go down

There then, where we can draw

A crowd.

That'll be great.

People, we come from

Different backgrounds.

It's like we react to things

Differently, you know?

It's like, I mean, granted you

Didn't know where the call was

Coming from.

My anger was probably

Misdirected, but it's like I

Just felt--

But kevin, you have a lot of

Misdirected anger, and I don't

Feel like--i mean, there's no

Way that I can take that

Personal, and I understand that.

But how, I mean--how am i--

I have a lot of misdirected

Anger; I also have a lot of

Anger that's, you know,

Justifiable too.

This is my point.

This is what I was saying

To andre.

You come from a particular

Background; I come from a

Particular background.

Wait a minute. Will you listen?

Why do you got to get--why do

You get so close?

Will you listen?

Black people are emotional.

That's my explanation.

White people are just--

Oh, my god.

Listen, will you--

It's not a black-white thing.

Why do you have to get so close?

Will you just listen?

Will you listen?

I'm listening, kevin.

Yesterday was a

Building point.

You happen to be--

Why do you get so--i don't

Understand that.

That's my culture.

That has nothing to do with

Your culture.

Yes, it does.

It does not!

That's part of the problem.

Get off the black-white

Thing; I'm sick of it.

Look at los angeles!

Look at los angeles, how are--

I'm sick of it!

What do all of those notes

On the bulletin board mean?

What are you gonna do

About it if you're sick of--

What are you gonna do?

Hit me?

No, and there you go.

You said that yesterday.

Why do you assume because I'm a

Black man, I'm gonna hit you?

That's what you assume?

Yes, you do.

God, no!

Why did you say it then?

Why did you say it then?

Because you said, "suck my

[...], I'm gonna break every one

Of your [...] Fingers."

Bull[...].

You didn't say that?

You hear what you want

To hear.

Kevin!

You hear what you want

To hear, and how are you gonna

Say, "get off the black-white

Thing," when that's the reality?

Racism is everywhere.

That's my point.

That's my point.

What happened in alabama?

Because of people like

You, kevin.

People like me?

Because of people like you,

Not people like me.

Black people cannot

Be r*cist.

Black people cannot be r*cist.

We don't have the power to

Control what--

Get out of my [...] Face!

I'm so sick of this.

'Cause you don't understand.

How can you say, "why am

I upset?"

Because you can spit in

My face and lie and throw [...]

And then deny it.

No one has ever approached

You like--that's the problem.

Oh, nobody's ever approached

Me like this?

Bull[...].

How do you know?

I know; I can tell the way

You reacted.

Oh, kevin, you don't know!

You're a reactionary, your

Reactions--you don't know.

You call yourself a teacher?

You're years old, white

Girl from alabama.

You call yourself a teacher?

You're a -year-old white

Girl from alabama who just

Doesn't understand.

It's not a black-white issue.

Yes, it is.

How, how is it a

Black-white issue?

Let's go inside.

Why?

I thought we were fine out here.

Well, I mean, I can't speak

For julie, but for myself, I

Mean, it got to a point inside

Where I said, "this doesn't make

Any sense to constantly be

Yelling at each other."

I mean, we've been here

/ Months, and we've been

Like the best of friends, you

Know, and we can, you know,

Agree to disagree on the nature

Of the argument, what happened

During the course of the

Argument and everything.

You know, and at least try to

Live and respect each other for

The duration of our stay in

The loft.

I'm not sorry for it.

I don't feel like I did anything

On the phone, and I don't--i

Mean, and if I did, I don't feel

Like I deserved what I got.

I don't really feel like you

Have a lot of respect for me a

Lot of times or for a lot

Of people.

You know, I'm not talking about

Anybody in particular.

I'm just talking about people.

Well, I'm sorry it had to

Happen like that.

I'm really sorry it happened

Like that too.

So you feel better?

That's all you had to do was

Kind of get in my face and

Scream a little and--

Oh, who was pushing who?

[Goofy grunting noises]

Who was close enough to

Be pushed?

Julie didn't back down

At all.

She believed in what she was

Saying strongly, and she wasn't

Going to back down for that.

And what else can I do but

Respect that, you know?

I really like kevin, and,

I mean, I couldn't--could

Never deny that.

I respect him a lot.

I think he's really intelligent

And has a lot of important

Things to say.

That doesn't mean that I ever

Want to be alone with kevin

Again in my life.

I will never be comfortable.

I mean, I don't really

Understand how I can be expected

To be.

[Peaceful flute music]



Hey.

Yeah?

What's up?

Nothing.

Saturday night, dude.

Yeah.

You coming?

What's the word?

Big party.

[Electronic dance music]



I asked her for a paper cup,

And she grabbed my leather coat

And says, "that's $ for the

Paper cup."

And those two women beat me up.

Do you see my mouth?

The first thing I hear is,

You know, "julie, you know, you

Need to talk to heather.

She's gonna be arrested.

She hit some girl."

She felt she was assaulted

When she tried to take a cup.

Why did you try to take a cup?

All you have to do is ask

For one, period.

I'm going to a phone booth,

And I'm calling the police.

I've been assaulted, and I'm

Filing a complaint.

[Dance music]



The woman was rude to her,

And heather let her know you

Don't--you don't act rude

Towards heather "b."

I don't even have to talk

To her.

You want to speak to me?

Next on the real world...

Where are they taking--where

Are they going with her?

Where are they going?

Stop them and find out where

They're going.

[Siren bleeping]

Julie's on the toilet; eric's

In the shower in the

Same bathroom.

See, they're probably doing

Their first sex thing.

Yo, seriously, man, we're

Just trying to have a good,

Little party here.

No need to be [...] It up

For everybody.

Just chill out, and we'll have a

Good time.

You know what I'm saying?

Seriously, you know, you don't

Need to be smoking no reefer,

Because that's gonna shut the

Party down.

The cops are here.

Everybody saw them.

Just chill out. Seriously.

The music will play.

Everybody will dance and have a

Good time.

Just don't [...] Around.

You know?

[Bouncy hip-hop music]



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