- Tonight,
- Tonight,
the reunion concludes.
Erika is suffering from PTSD.
- [chuckles]
- At least you're not
schizophrenic...
[laughs]
- Could you give her
some pills?
[laughter]
- I'm rude to everybody.
There you go.
Join the .....ing club,
I mean, I said...[laughs]
- You're always in a tizzy, and
I'm always calming you down.
She has her knickers
in a permanent twist.
- That's your friend.
- I did lose a lot of family.
- Yeah.
- And, um, you know...
- I don't wanna air laundry
with my sisters
that aren't on the show.
I feel its unfair to talk
about them, honestly.
My grandmother meant
a lot to me too.
Do you know her name?
- No.
- You are much more
calculating than you're saying.
You are not this innocent
fawn in the woods.
- Here I am, trying
to voice my opinion.
- Raise up, or get the
[BLEEP] out, come on, girl.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Lisa Vanderpump,
at Dorit's fashion show,
you told her the decision
to remove the photos
from the magazine had been
made a few days before,
yet we saw in the footage
that it was a month before.
- Did you tell her about
that and ask her about it,
or you just did it?
- Well, it was only
decided yesterday.
- Oh.
- Yeah.
- It's your jewelry.
It's our magazine.
And we made her look stunning.
And then she decides that
it's just not good enough?
I don't want that energy
in the magazine.
We're dropping it.
We have a stunning model.
We have an amazing sh**t today.
- Why weren't you
up-front with Dorit?
- No, but...no, in the footage,
you see me reshooting it,
but we don't know if
we're gonna like them.
We used Dorit's pictures
with...
of her hands and
her décolletage.
- But did you do that
and cut off the head because...
genuinely, Lisa,
because, you know,
we're honest with one another.
- Yeah.
- Because you were looking
to punish me? Or...
- Punish you?
You didn't like them.
- Lisa...
- But it is kind of harsh
to cut off someone's head.
- But that was exactly...
- It kind of is, you know?
- It's kinda like,
you know what? [BLEEP] you.
- It's like [BLEEP] you.
- You didn't do what I wanted.
You made a scene, she feels
like you were an as*h*le.
Watch me, I'ma be another
as*h*le and chop your .....ing
head off and put them in.
Do you see what I'm saying?
- You know, you've been
punished by Lisa in a fun way.
Where do you see this?
- So fun.
Listen, do I think that
the head was chopped off
on purpose?
I mean...
- Be honest. Be honest.
- Yeah. I think she
thought, well, whatever.
You don't wanna be in it?
Fine, off with her head.
- Well, I mean, you didn't chop
her head off not on purpose.
It wasn't a mistake that
you chopped her head off.
- I don't want to go into
the dynamics of the magazine,
but I didn't personally
edit the photographs.
- How did you ultimately feel
about seeing your head
chopped off?
- Well, I felt like
she could've had
a dialogue with me
and let me know that.
- Did you believe Lisa
when she said that she had
only made the decision
a few days before?
- No.
- You think she had made it...
- I do, because evidence
points to that.
I mean, she had
another photo sh**t.
- Vanderpump,
at the fashion show
when you said Dorit's photos
would run in the magazine
but it would only
feature her hands
and décolletage...
- Which is exactly
what I thought it was
gonna be originally.
- To me, it looked like
you were making
the decision in that moment.
It kinda looked like
you were spitballing.
- No. What, you mean
right then and there?
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- No.
- No?
- Actually, I don't wanna...
I don't make those decisions,
honestly.
- You don't?
- The fashion director does.
- Lisa,
you're editor-in-chief.
I'm sure if you wanted
photos in a magazine,
they would be in there.
- But by then I didn't care.
I really didn't care because
you weren't happy with them.
I didn't care.
- Okay.
- Do you wish you'd been in it?
- I think it would've
been nice.
- Normally you don't even have
that power.
If you're in a magazine
and you sh**t it,
the editor gets to put in
whatever they want.
Why did you give her
so much power?
Like, why'd you care?
Why didn't you just
print those pictures?
They were gorgeous.
Like, why didn't you?
- Because Mark
was absolutely adamant
that any negativity surrounding
the magazine was not gonna fly.
- But the negative pictures
still ended up
in the final cut.
- Yeah.
- You just cut her head off.
[all speaking at once]
- Do you see what I'm saying?
- Yeah, but it wasn't her.
because she wasn't happy
with how she looks.
- But it's still
the same images.
So the negative images made
the final print anyway.
They're still there.
- [sighs]
- The negative images
are still there.
- There's no negativity.
- Why didn't you use
the other model's pictures?
Then there'd be no negativity.
- You're damned if you do,
and you're damned if you don't.
How the [BLEEP]
do you win with this group?
[laughter]
- You don't, you don't win!
Ever!
- You hit the nail on the head.
Every one of us feel
that exact same way.
You put it
absolutely beautifully.
- How do you win?
- You can't!
- Okay, so we're
a bunch of losers.
Let's get used to it.
- Yes!
- So how are the two of you
these days?
- Well, until today,
we were doing really well.
- [laughs]
- Is the issue out
now on stands?
- Yes, do you want a copy?
- [laughs]
- I wanna see her
chopped off head.
Rinna, you said that
Dorit's time with Vanderpump
as the pet may be up because
a newer, younger version
has come along.
- [laughs]
- So by that math...
- Yes?
- That means Teddi
could be on her way out.
- Well, Teddi better mind
her P's and Q's, certainly.
- [laughs]
- Okay, we do see
the funny side,
but I have a very different
relationship with Teddi than...
I mean, she's four years
older than my daughter,
for God's sake,
so it is very different
compared to, you know,
these old bags.
[laughter]
- Who you calling an old bag?
- Lisa, when did you first
start calling Teddi teddy bear?
- I told her when I first
met her that Teddi was Ken's
nickname and it's gonna be the
name of my first grandchild.
I told you that.
So, she's like
a little teddy bear.
I just...I think
she's so cute, I mean...
- Do you like the nickname?
- I don't mind it.
I mean, it's one
of those things, like,
from the very start,
she was very welcoming to me,
and that's how I took it.
- Dorit, what do you think
of the nickname?
- [laughs]
- I...it's, you know,
I'm not calling her it,
so it doesn't really matter
what I think
if she likes it.
[laughter]
- Lisa, you kinda like it
that Dorit was jealous of...
- She likes to squirm...
I think she does enjoy
watching her squirm.
- You know what?
What I was saddened about
was the demise of my
friendship with Dorit.
- It's not demise.
You're still together.
- At the time it was.
At the time it was, Erika.
- It's a bump in the road where
you learn about each other
and you grow from it,
it's fine.
- It's not demise, babe.
- No, but a temporary demise...
- That's better.
- Okay.
- But why? Because she
called you insecure and...
- [sighs]
- What was the other thing?
- Your mom didn't love you.
- Needy of love and attention.
- What level are we talking?
I'm trying to get clear on it,
'cause it doesn't seem like
it's that big of a deal.
- It wasn't that big of a deal,
but my feelings were hurt.
As Teddi said, her feelings
would've been hurt, too,
and as Erika actually agreed,
said her feelings
would be hurt.
- Very reticently, yes.
- So, by the way, I said
that you guys
are newer friends.
Even though you guys
became close soon,
you are newer friends,
and I told you separately,
without anyone around,
you should say something
about what you said,
just because I do know her
really well and I didn't want...
- Anybody would've been hurt.
- And you know I was
coming from a good place.
I think you know that
when I said that.
- You know what
I think she does?
Is that because
she talks so much,
she forgets the accuracy
in her recollection.
- Yeah, but boy, were you hard
on me when I didn't remember
the accuracy of
my recollection.
- Yeah, well, we were...yeah.
Of course you feel safe.
I'd feel safe
maligning somebody else.
- I wasn't maligning.
- You were contesting
her sobriety.
- This was after,
you know, after game night.
- What, so you make
that judgment call?
- Yeah, it wasn't necessarily
a fair judgment call.
- It was a judgment though,
Lisa.
- Yes it was, Lisa.
It's so interesting
to me that...
- We all have
different standards
for each and every...yeah.
- We have different standards.
We really do.
- Well, we'll be right back.
- That's true.
- Do you want to do a photo
sh**t for my magazine?
- I need my own hair
and makeup, mother.....er.
- It's not gonna happen.
- I know.
- Coming up...
- I think there's a lot
that goes on
in the two of your
relationship.
It's deeper than it seems.
[tense hip-hop music]
- We're back with the Real
- We're back with the Real
Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Well, when Erika
and her Fraulein
set off for Germany,
it was Berlin or bust.
Take a look.
- Here we come, Berlin.
- When I think of Germany...
Berlin...I think of edgy city.
- Look at that.
That's gorgeous.
- Old architecture,
new architecture,
and then I think of schnitzel
and beer.
Ja...or Da, whatever.
[upbeat folk music]
[cheering]
♪ ♪
- Do I know any German?
[speaks gibberish]
- [speaks gibberish]
I don't know.
- Wienerschnitzel?
- Kann ist un Bier haben?
Can I get another beer?
- We have a
special menu for you.
And we have a gin basil.
- What's a chin basil?
- Gin with lemon and basil.
- What's chin? Oh, gin, gin.
- [laughs]
- May I ask what that is?
- Veal tartare.
- No, I'm not eating
baby moo-moo.
- I ate the veal.
I'm international like that.
all: Hi.
- Look at this baby.
No, wait, I can't take it.
I'm dying.
[growls softly]
[solemn music]
- Massive part
of Jewish history.
- Each one symbolizes
each life lost.
That's just so awful.
This is actually
a very scary feeling.
- My grandfather,
while living in Poland,
at 16 years old, was...
ripped from his house
at dinner.
Two of his siblings
were k*lled by the Nazis,
and his parents were sent
to a concentration camp
in Siberia.
Thank God we've
never had to live
in a world...in a life...
- No...yeah.
- Where we ever have to deal
with something as big as this.
- The visit to the
Eisenman Holocaust Memorial
was quite touching.
Dorit, both of your parents
are Jewish?
- Yes.
- I have to imagine that
going to that memorial
was quite meaningful to you.
- For sure.
- Yeah.
- I think anytime, you know,
I see anything that has
to do with the Holocaust,
it's difficult because
I did lose a lot of family.
- Yeah.
- And, um, you know...
It's just that simple.
- Kyle, you converted to
Judaism for Mauricio, right?
- Yes.
- How did the w*r
affect his family?
- Um, you know, I don't know
enough of the history.
I just know that when they left
there and they went to Mexico,
um, but I know
they also obviously...
everyone lost family
in the Holocaust.
- Yeah.
Rinna, it looked like
a scary moment on the horse.
- h*, h*.
h*...
[screams]
Well, it was, actually,
because usually I can
stop things that are going...
that are moving,
and when you can't stop
something that's moving,
it's a bit scary,
but thank God for Teddi,
'cause she stopped that horse,
I mean...
- No, but you were brave
and strong and you...
if you would've freaked out,
it would've freaked out
a lot more.
- Well, thank God.
- We were all freaked out.
That was not a good time.
- Why did you go
horseback riding
when you're deathly
allergic to horses?
- Well, okay...your allergies
get worse as you get older.
- Uh-huh.
- And...or as time...
they accumulate in
your system, I guess.
I've never had an "anaphylactic
reaction" to a horse.
I mean, we're
in the middle of...
- Nowhere.
- Nowhere.
With no EpiPen, no doctor.
I have some German guy coming
up to me...first aid guys...
saying, you know, take the...
[speaks gibberish]
And I was like,
"What am I taking?"
I get freaked out
about medicine.
- What caused the panic attack?
- The fact that my throat
felt like it was closing,
and the whites in
my eyes were blood red.
- They were bright red.
- Because I got scared,
I started to panic.
- Erika, you were late
for the boat,
and then you almost
got hit by a bike.
[tires screeching]
- Oh, it was the best ever.
- Wouldn't you
have just bounced?
- [laughs]
- In the latex?
- No, I probably would've
just tangled up and died.
- [laughing]
You would've?
- No, it was intense.
I was late...yeah.
My day started late at
the zoo 'cause I was looking
for a doctor,
and it just kept snowballing.
- Vanderpump, why was it
so upsetting to you
that Kyle forgot Nanny K.,
your grandma?
- Because I've mentioned
Nanny K. so many times.
- Lisa, you have somebody
here for you now.
It's your grandmother.
- I was very close to her
for the last 25 years.
Nanny K. doesn't wanna
be woken up again.
She said, "No way.
Leave me alone."
- [laughs]
- And I don't want to
to speak to my grandmother.
I don't think I do.
- Nanny K. is not available.
She's busy in heaven.
[laughter]
- Nanny K. lived with me
for 25 years on and off.
She's like a mother to me.
She was one of the most
important people in my life.
Erika remembered her.
- By the way,
when you speak of your
grandmother, which is often,
you always say,
"my grandmother."
- No I don't, I say "Nanny K."
- Okay, well,
let me ask you a question.
- My book's
dedicated to Nanny K.
- When I met you,
she already passed away.
My grandmother
meant a lot to me too.
Do you know her name?
- No.
But you don't talk about...
I know your mother's name.
Big Kathy and I know all...
- Well, yeah.
But, okay, my point is,
that doesn't have any,
you know,
indication of my love for you.
- I want to be really frank
here, okay?
And this is not designed
to hurt you at all,
and it's not gonna hurt you.
But most of our
conversations between us...
hand to God...
Because she has anxiety,
because she has,
you know, hypochondria,
because of family dynamics,
she does, we've been...
- I'm always there to listen
to anything you talk about.
[both speaking at once]
- That's your friend.
- Multiple slerosis and this...
- Who knows.
- Multiple sclerosis.
Not sleroris.
- You know what I'm saying.
- Don't know, whatever that is.
- Sclerosis.
- Okay, no, I don't...
[all speaking at once]
- Yes, we talked
about my anxiety.
- I happen to be, like,
an older sister to you,
to really counsel you and
calm you down constantly.
- Listen, I'm a much more
open person than you too.
I share a lot more
about my personal life
than you share.
- Yes, you do.
- I'm happy and always listen
to anything you share...
- Yeah, but you're always
in a tizzy,
and I'm always
calming you down.
- You're always in
a hysterical tizzy.
- That's why we're friends.
[laughter]
She has her knickers
in a permanent twist.
- 'Cause you're a caretaker.
You take care of her.
- If it's so bothersome
to you... [laughs]
- I always listen when
you're upset, always.
- Rinna, you're getting
a kick out of this...why?
- Well, 'cause I'm not
part of it.
[laughs]
- Oh.
- I was just gonna say,
I feel like that's
what friendship is.
You know, everybody's
gonna have different things
that they discuss, and if
it's something that you don't
enjoy doing as a friend to
somebody, you can say to them,
"Hey, listen, I can't do this.
I can't be this friend to you."
- No, but I like
to be that friend to her.
- Rinna, do you think that
Vanderpump likes it
when Kyle is...
kind of vulnerable?
- I don't know.
I think the roles that
get played in their
relationship
is Lisa takes care
of Kyle in some form
because Kyle comes to her,
it sounds like,
with vulnerable situations.
- But I like to do that.
But that's
a mean thing to say.
Again, who wrote this sh...?
Who actually would say...
- Oh!
- Lisa, Lisa...
yes, you invented
that question.
- I did because
I saw her muttering
during that conversation.
- Okay, all right, okay.
- I think it's complicated.
I think there's a lot
that goes on in the two
of your relationship.
It's deeper than it seems.
That's what I'm saying.
- But for the most part, we
have a good time and we laugh.
- Yes, of course you love
each other and all of that,
yes, yes, yes, but we're not
really talking about that.
- You really feel that
your relationship with her
is all about her?
- I love her madly, but I do
feel like...
- Definitely a two-way street.
- I'm more invested in her
life, than...
- Than she is in yours?
- And you know what?
Maybe that's what I give out.
- This is an new thing that
you just came up with today.
- For you to suddenly say
it's not all about you
is so wrong because...
- Oh, that's why
you're saying this today...
that usually our
conversations are about me,
'cause I said
it was all about you, okay.
- Maybe I felt, like,
a little drained.
Maybe I felt upset.
Maybe I felt tired.
Maybe I didn't wanna
sit there waiting.
And maybe I didn't
like it when you said,
"I feel you guys
have planned it."
- Maybe you didn't like that it
wasn't about you for a minute.
- Listen,
what I'm trying to say
is that our relationship...
because she's got...
she's so paranoid because
she's got all her anxiety,
because she got a family
thing...all these things...
I feel a lot of the time,
I'm like a matriarchal,
or an "older sister" to her,
talking her down off the ledge.
And you know what?
I'm fine with that,
because I feel like
I must look after her
a little bit, you know?
So could you
apologize for that?
- Saying that
it's all about you?
- Yeah.
- I'm sorry.
- Could you also apologize...
- You just said
it's all about her.
- No, when she said it was
all about me at the Palihouse.
- Oh, I just got it.
It took me all that time.
I just, like, got it.
- If I thought that everything
was all about you all the time,
I wouldn't love you
and be as close as we are.
- Okay, well then,
that's good enough.
- Don't make it a bigger issue
than it is.
It was the Palihouse.
- Okay, thank you.
- Coming up...
- I don't really talk
about that stuff
because they're not
a part of the show.
[voice breaking]
Um...
- Oh, Kyle.
[solemn music]
- We're back with the Real
- We're back with the Real
Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Kyle is an American woman
living the American dream,
but be careful
what you wish for,
as the reality of success
isn't always award-winning.
- Who wants to see
"American Woman"?
- Me.
- I do!
- "American Woman"
is inspired by my life
growing up with my mom
in the '70s.
- How do you think your sisters
will feel when they watch this?
- I hope excited.
They haven't seen it yet.
When I'm with my sisters,
"American Woman"
doesn't usually come up.
I feel like,
since the beginning, that
they didn't really understand
what the project was.
It's not exactly
our life at all.
- I am gonna cheer you on
like your own mother would.
[mellow music]
♪ ♪
- Every time that, you know,
Kathy succeeded in something
or Kim or I did,
my mom would always say it.
This was her expression.
"This is feather
in all of our caps."
We're a team, you know,
we all stick together.
My mom was always about that.
- [softly]
Oh.
- My family celebrates
Christmas...
- Right.
- But I'm not always
invited now, so,
it's like, you know...
- No.
- I wouldn't, like, go with
my husband over to Kathy's.
My husband, for years,
worked for my brother-in-law,
and, you know,
then he went off on his own.
That doesn't always work well
in a family dynamic,
and it can complicate things.
I mean,
I love my sisters a lot.
It's very complicated.
- So, when will "American
Woman" finally premiere?
- This summer.
- Very exciting.
- Have your sisters seen it?
- Not yet.
- Are you nervous?
- No, no, I'm not nervous.
I actually am eager
for them to see it,
especially Kathy.
She had a different idea
of what the show
is going to be,
so I'm looking forward to her
seeing it, and you know...
- Just in that clip
on the finale,
it seemed like it was about
three sisters and a mom.
Is there issue that they feel
that it's their story to tell
and not just yours?
- No, because,
well, first of all,
it's not exactly like our life.
There's two sisters
in the show, not three.
And, you know, the writers
take creative license.
That's why I kept saying,
"inspired by, inspired by,"
not "based on."
So I think they thought
it was more literal.
I would never take, you know,
the liberty to tell
someone else's story ever.
- How is your relationship
with Kathy right now?
- Um...
Not great.
- Are you speaking?
- I saw her last night.
No.
- Honestly, not right now and
that's why I'm looking forward
to her seeing "American Woman"
'cause I think she's gonna
look and say,
"I read the situation wrong,"
and, you know,
and then we'll go from there.
- When was the
last time you spoke?
- Maybe, um, six months ago.
- Wow.
And this is all over the show?
- Yeah.
- Did you think about just
sending her the script
and saying, "Look,
this is not what you think"?
- I told her all the time,
you know?
I said, this is not...you know,
I'm not sharing your stories
or Kim's, just my own stories,
and not only that, you know,
it's a fictionalized version
of, you know, our life,
and our mom being
a single mom in the '70s
is the jumping off point.
- Is there more
than the TV show?
- You know, I think it
started with, you know,
my husband leaving
their real estate company
and opening the agency.
- I have been approached
to create our own company,
and it's so difficult
for me to deal with that
because of the family.
- If your mother was alive,
I think then the cohesion
would've pulled them
back together.
And I think now the mother's
not part of the equation,
it's easy...and honestly,
that's what Kathy
said to me last night.
- Well, I have to tell you,
in watching that scene,
I never...
and I don't really
talk about that stuff because
they're not a part of the show.
[voice breaking]
Um...
- Oh, Kyle.
- I feel it's unfair
to talk about them, honestly.
And...but I felt
so in that moment,
because the night before,
I had so much to share,
and I didn't feel like I could.
- Yeah.
- And even though my husband
is incredibly supportive,
you know, he really is,
it's different than having
someone you grew up with,
like your mom or your sisters,
and I lost it in that moment,
and you were really sweet
and supportive, Dorit,
and then I felt so bad that,
you know, because...
- You know,
let me ask you this.
You have a new show called
"Glass Houses."
- Yeah.
- And it's described
in "Variety" as being
about a woman who launches
her own company and
challenges the dominance
of the grande dame of
the LA real estate world,
her former employer
and mother-in-law.
I mean, is that similar
to what Mauricio went through
with your brother-in-law?
- Once again, the idea
that I'm creating has nothing
to do with actual stories.
- Are you tempting fate
by potentially pissing off
your sister more
with this second show?
- Well, yeah, they didn't...
Kathy didn't like that either.
My life is my life, you know?
And if I get an idea
sparked by something, I'm not...
I would never throw any of
my family under the bus ever.
My sisters, my mom...
[voice breaking]
My dad, anybody...
- Family means
everything to Kyle.
- I feel sad about my sisters
and I also feel sad about,
you know, 'cause I remember in
that moment how close I felt
to her and how supportive
she was and, you know,
it meant a lot to me.
- I know, me too, Kyle.
My friendship with you...
it means so much to me,
which is why I just feel
the way I feel, I just...
- I know,
I felt bad about that.
- You know, I think we have
a few things to work on.
- I would get upset about
things that you said or did,
but I never ever wavered
in my feelings,
saying that you're a good
person and I care about you,
and that I adore you;
literally never once
have said anything
other than that.
Is that not true?
- Well, you adore her.
- Not one time.
- Up next...
- I've never been spoken to
the way that you speak to me,
and it bothers me.
- You think you're
a fawn amongst sharks.
- Welcome back to
- Welcome back to
"The Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills" reunion.
"Cool Girls and Crybabies"
could be the title
of Erika Jayne's
next big dance hit,
or just the way
some might describe
her tumultuous summer
with Teddi.
Let's listen to the song
that went wrong.
- Nice to meet you.
Happy birthday.
- I know, happy birthday.
- How was it growing up
with your dad?
- Well, I don't know him.
[laughing]
I'm sorry.
I'm being an as*h*le.
- Erika comes off to me
like a cool girl.
You know, like,
I'm too cool for anything.
- For you.
- Thank you very much.
- This is gorgeous.
I'm downstairs.
I've got my bed.
I had all intentions
of staying at her house,
but I wasn't feeling well,
and I wasn't getting
any better.
- Yeah, I'm gonna
come stay with you.
Oh, psych, I'm actually
gonna stay in a hotel.
It's like, don't fudge it.
- So you're mad at me
that I didn't spend the night
here last night?
I didn't wanna bleed
all over your sheets.
- Okay, this is becoming a
bigger deal than it should be.
Honestly...
- I get it. I get it.
Okay, I don't need
anymore petting.
I'm fine.
- It makes me feel weird
as grown woman that has
a good life and good friends
that one person can
affect you that way.
It's like...
What is that?
- Well, that's me being hurt.
[scoffs]
It's way too difficult
to be friends with this chick.
It's like...
[scoffs] Really?
I don't, you know,
I don't need to work that hard
to be friends with anybody.
[ominous music]
Maybe it did, maybe it didn't.
It's possible.
- So you pretending that
it's full amnesia right now
is confusing to me.
- No, excuse me.
Don't ever say I'm pretending
'cause I'm not pretending.
I'm telling you the truth.
I don't remember saying that.
Don't ever say that
to me again.
Don't [BLEEP] with me
like that.
- I did not realize
that comment would've
upset you to that point.
I apologize.
- Well, you're basically
calling me a liar.
I simply don't remember.
And I'm tired
of being nice to you.
- [crying] I'm out of here.
Leave me alone.
- Teddi. Teddi.
- Hey, Dorit,
just leave that alone.
- Teddi is in a pool of sharks,
and she's like a baby dolphin.
- It's not appropriate
to talk to another grown
person the way that she does,
- I'm not apologizing for it.
Don't ask for it.
'Cause you're not gonna get it.
Miss Crybaby.
- You scare her.
- And it's honestly...
- You scare the living sh...
out of her.
- Obviously, I don't wanna
scare you, sweetheart.
I don't wanna be that person.
- I mean, I think I just...
- That does not
make me feel good.
I can't shut that temper off.
You know, that's something
I'd like to change,
I'd like to work on,
but I am adult enough
to know that I'm an as*h*le.
And you know what?
I don't need to talk about it
again with you.
- Okay.
- We're good, okay?
- Good.
- Valerie from Greenwich,
Connecticut, said,
"I wanna know if Teddi
was calling Erika a liar
"when she accused her
of having pretend amnesia,
or if she just said
the wrong words."
- Truthfully, it was flippant
comment that you see when...
the second that you kinda
snap at me, I immediately go,
"Oh, my gosh, I'm sorry."
- Yes, but why would you
even challenge my integrity
like that instead of saying,
"Erika, you know what?"
"Well, I don't understand,
you have pretend amnesia."
- Because I was frustrated
and because
I'm already having
a conversation with her.
- Where did you get
pretend amnesia?
- Yeah,
where does that come from?
Why would you do that?
- It just popped out.
I don't know.
I really don't.
- But that's a stretch.
I've never called into
question your character.
You react very strongly to me.
She called you a psycho.
She hammered you for 12 weeks.
And I say, you know, I don't...
- I didn't hammer her
for 12 weeks.
- You kinda let her have it.
Yeah, you did.
- She was actually
letting me have it.
- You guys were back and forth.
- Yeah. Exactly.
- It was a trade.
- It wasn't me hammering her
for 12 weeks.
- Well, you're good at it.
My point is that
you guys had it out,
but if I say something,
if I get strong...
when I feel my integrity is
attacked with pretend amnesia,
what would cause you
to say that?
- I think she was
looking for backup, like,
she was trying to make
a point in that moment.
- No, but you have to be
willing to take responsibility
for whatever you say...
- Which I did.
- And how people react to it.
- I said "sorry."
- She apologized right then,
right?
- I apologized in the moment.
- Yes, but you know what?
- But, but, but, but?
- Hey...exactly.
So what?
You called me a liar.
What did you think I was
gonna do, brush it off?
- But you, looking back now,
don't you think
it was too aggressive?
- No, that is...
Lisa, that is who I am.
Have I ever
made you feel crazy?
No.
- No.
- Right.
- Have I ever made you feel
like you were scared of me?
No.
Someone may say something
to you that absolutely
strikes at your core,
and you will defend yourself...
- Yeah, but I do think
you overreacted.
- Well, that's your opinion.
- The way you've
always talked to me
is like you're
talking down to me.
- I think that that's
really how you see it...
- No.
- And not who I am.
This is where the problem is.
Your interpretation of
what I say and how I say
strikes you in a very deep,
personal way.
- What's personal about it
is I've never been spoken to
the way that you speak to me,
and it bothers me.
- Well, that has a lot to do
with you and not with me,
because I feel like
you harbor some huge,
like, resentment
or something toward me,
and it's obvious, babe.
You even say,
"I don't know why I react
to this woman this way."
- Because maybe in your world,
people talk to you that way.
People don't talk to me...
- In the world.
I find it very hard to believe.
You're a very
sophisticated woman.
You're well-traveled.
You come from, you know...
- You think
sophistication people
scream and snap
at each other?
- I've not screamed at you.
I haven't raised my voice.
- People speak to you
and say...
[growling]
"Don't you call me a liar.
Don't you ever do that.
Don't you call me..."
- You know what?
Because, you know what...
- I'm adult, Erika.
I respect you.
- Then why are you calling
another adult woman a liar?
- You saw that I was in
a conversation with Dorit.
You did not need
to get involved.
And I feel like there's
a lot of times where people
are trying to put words
in my mouth for me because
sometimes I'll be quiet.
For me, it was mainly...
- I think you speak
very clearly and I think
that you are much
stronger than you let on.
And I think that you are
much more calculating
than you're saying.
You are not this innocent
fawn in the woods.
- I don't say I'm an
innocent fawn of the woods.
That's what you guys
treat me like.
- No.
- Yes.
- No, that's how you see
yourself in this group.
You think you're
a fawn amongst sharks.
- Well, and here I am
trying to voice my opinion.
- Well, Teddi, raise up or get
the [BLEEP] out, come on, girl.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
- Coming up...
- You need to listen.
If you had spoken to me
the way you spoke to Teddi,
I would be
really upset too.
- You are not this innocent
- You are not this innocent
fawn in the woods.
- I don't say I'm an
innocent fawn of the woods.
That's what you guys
treat me like.
- No.
- Yes.
- No, that's how you
see yourself in this group.
You think you're
a fawn amongst sharks.
- Well, and here I am
trying to voice my opinion.
- Well, Teddi, raise up,
or get the [BLEEP] out.
Come on, girl.
- What am I doing right now?
I'm defending myself.
- No, you're not
defending yourself.
- I am.
- I'm defending myself.
- Come on, Erika, that's not...
- No, you don't...
you're misunderstanding.
- That's not...
I don't like that at all.
[both talking at once]
- That is not empowering
somebody.
That is talking down
to somebody.
That is what it is.
- I'm telling you right now.
You know that you belong
in this group.
- Why does she have
to raise up to you
just because you're
being aggressive to her?
- I don't need to rise up
to say something
I'm going to regret.
- Erika, you need to listen.
You really need to listen.
If you had spoken to me
the way you spoke to Teddi,
I would be really upset too.
- Why?
She belongs here.
- No, it's not about belonging.
- It doesn't matter.
You just don't talk
to people that way.
- It's just too aggressive.
- It's not aggressive.
- It was aggressive.
- No.
- Can I just say one thing?
Last year, when I did
not remember something,
and you came
in front of a group
and basically ambushed me.
- Did you or did you not
say that my sister
is close to death?
And that she is not 100% sober,
and that I'm enabler?
[tense pop music]
- I do not ever remember
saying that.
You could've
taken me alone and said,
"Lisa, you know,
I've heard this.
What's the deal?"
You did it in front
of everybody.
It was totally traumatic.
- Yeah.
Well, but you did
say those things,
so it was justified.
- Yeah, well, I did.
But I didn't remember.
And I think
anyone in this group...
- Well, that's debatable.
- What?
- Whether you
remember that or not.
You may not remember
those exact words,
but you remember the sentiment
of feeling that way.
- Well I didn't...
I didn't mean it that way.
[all speaking at once]
- The question is, is Teddi
being too sensitive,
or is Erika being too harsh?
What do you think?
- I think that...I can see where
Teddi's feelings would be hurt.
And it's hard coming
into this group and,
you know, I don't see it as
who's insecure or has issues.
It's very hard,
and you wanna feel welcome.
And I think in those...they had
a bad history because of Vegas
and those comments
made her feel like
she wasn't being
treated as an equal.
- Shamika from Scarsdale,
New York, said,
"Erika, you're kinda a diva.
"I think you didn't wanna
stay at Teddi's beach house
"without your glam squad.
Were they waiting
for you at the hotel?"
- No, they were not.
- She stayed at a DoubleTree.
- I went to the DoubleTree,
so I could,
you know,
clean up and go to sleep.
And that's the truth.
There was no...
- But your assistant
was already there.
- My assistant
is not my glam squad.
- You said it several times
during the course...
- Yes. [BLEEP], yes.
- It's on camera.
- You said,
"I'm not feeling well."
- You know what?
I'm feeling like my uterus
is being pulled
through my stomach.
- Oh, God.
- When you've got a bad period,
it's the worst.
It's the worst.
The worst.
- Oh, yeah.
- I'm having the worst period
of my entire life.
- No.
- I feel like I'm dying.
- By the way,
we both didn't know that.
- We didn't know you
weren't feeling well,
and also, if it's embarrassing
about your period,
then why did you talk
about it to them?
- Who gives a sh...
that Erika left?
I still don't understand.
- No, but the point was
is that it wasn't
a last-minute decision.
It was something planned,
your assistant...
but why was your assistant
at the hotel?
- This isn't personal,
and I feel like you're...
There's no glam squad,
there's nothing there.
I went to the
.....ing DoubleTree...
- [chuckles]
- At 12:30, took a shower,
went to sleep,
and came back for more.
- A lot of viewers pinged
on you kind of
pushing her away when
she tried to give you a hug.
- Yeah, absolutely,
because you know what?
It's embarrassing to have to
talk about your feminine issues
on television.
- But you'd already talked
about it to Lisa Vanderpump
and Dorit, apparently.
- To have to, like, convince
you to have to be bullied
instead of saying,
"Hey, I heard you..."
- I bullied you?
I had no idea you were
not feeling well.
- Well, now you do,
and how do you feel about it?
You don't care.
It does not feel good to come
back in and to feel like,
hey, I didn't know you
weren't feeling good.
I understand why you left.
I get it.
You wanted some privacy.
- Why did you recoil
when she went to...
- Because it's embarrassing.
It's embarrassing to have to
explain yourself
to other women
and to have
to have it play out.
If it were just dead and been
like, "Yeah, listen, you guys,
"I wasn't feeling good.
I just went up the street
and came back.
I'm here, let's go."
- No, hold on a second.
I think there's
more to it than that.
I think that when
you're vulnerable,
you don't wanna
draw attention to it.
- No, not at all.
- And that's not a...
because I saw it in Hong Kong.
- You okay?
- Yes, I'm fine.
- You don't have to be fine,
you know, all the time.
- I don't wanna have
this conversation.
- And that's not a negative,
but I think you're just like,
nope, I'm a strong woman and
you're not gonna see me break.
- I didn't wanna have
any of it.
- Victoria from Cleveland
has a psychological diagnosis...
- Oh, let's go, Victoria.
- She said, "We've seen Erika
snap at Eileen and now Teddi.
I'm not a psychologist..."
- Oh, that's good.
- "But this kind of behavior
makes me believe
Erika is suffering from PTSD."
- Oh, God.
- Post-traumatic
stress disorder?
- Yeah.
- I would wonder what from.
[laughs]
- I don't know.
- At least you're
not schizophrenic.
- Could you give her
some pills?
- Yeah, sure.
Why does she trigger you?
- My point is...
my point is, it's intentional.
She knows exactly
what she's doing.
- Do you really think that?
- Yes.
I think that.
I see how she talks.
- What'd Teddi say?
- She thinks it's intentional.
I said, what triggers you?
Why does Erika trigger you?
She said,
"I think it's intentional."
- And I think what you do
is intentional.
- Erika,
Teddi wrote a blog about this
which you retweeted and
described as "pure comedy."
- Yes.
- So I'm assuming
you don't agree with...
- I don't agree that
I do not look at myself
in the mirror or that
I'm not truthful with myself.
I don't think you should,
you know...
I didn't like being
called Regina Jayne.
I've, you know, "Mean Girls"
and stuff like that.
And not just that one.
They've been before...
they are been subsequent
that you really had
a go at me in your blogs,
week after week after week.
- And cathartically, I need to.
In the moment, I'm sorry...
- So how does that
make me feel?
So if we're gonna level it out,
is that fair?
- Yes.
I'm sorry,
but I agree with Erika here.
- Going on social media
to then tweet, retweet,
like things that say
"Fire Teddi" bother me.
Especially when you say,
"You belong here, Teddi."
It sounds phony.
- Oh, no, I'm not phony.
No, no, no, no, no.
Again, I'm being called a liar.
- I am not! I'm saying...
- No, you're
being called phony.
- Phony...well, same thing.
- No, I'm saying
it sounds phony to me because
you're liking somebody say,
"Fire Teddi."
- No, it was calling you
a sh... stirrer, which I did
believe you were sh... stirring.
- The tweet says, "Fire Teddi."
- It does say "Fire Teddi."
You're absolutely right
it does, and I liked it.
And what did I...
and why did I do that?
Because your blog was
absolutely scathing.
It was absolute saying that,
you know,
I have no character, I lack...
I can't have any
real friendships.
You don't know what kind of
friendships I have in my life.
You don't know anything
about me, really.
- It was hard.
- It was very hard.
- It was hard.
- It was hard.
And I was hurt.
- Well, guess what.
- That's where
it's stemming from.
- There it is.
- You're hurt, both of you.
- These women have known
each other for a very long time
and been doing this
a very long time,
and they never made me feel
the way that you
consistently treated me.
And that is the truth,
and I'm sorry...
- Teddi, that is really more
about you than it is me.
- I'm not pretending
I'm free of fault.
I am telling you
how you make me feel.
- Then we're all the same.
- Then treat me the same.
- I do treat you the same.
I'm rude to everybody.
There you go.
Join the .....ing club.
[laughter]
- In Berlin, Dorit told Erika
that she scares
the sh... out of Teddi.
Does she scare
the sh... out of you?
- It's not scare.
I don't like the uncertainty
of being around Erika.
I never know what
I'm going to get.
Am I gonna get
a lashing right now,
or am I gonna get
an empowerment speech?
- It's not a lashing.
- You told me point blank
"She scares the sh...
out of me."
- When?
I said she makes me
very uncomfortable
and she hurts my feelings.
- You said, "She scares
the sh... out of me, Dorit."
- In that latex, you scare the
sh... out of me, just saying.
- You know what?
It's very hard coming in
to a group like this new,
and like, you know,
you're not feeling welcome.
- Erika, you describe
yourself as an as*h*le.
- Oh, well, I was being
totally rude there.
- And you don't like that
about yourself,
which is...which is a big
admission for you to say.
- Sure.
- So is that something
that you wanna work on?
Is that something that you
wanna change about yourself?
- Well, I think...
- If you're saying that
you're an as*h*le...
- If you're saying it,
then maybe it was
as*h*le behavior.
- How about this?
I think that
in certain audiences,
they have to be...
my responses have
to be tailored.
And in certain audi...
you know, in some places,
that wouldn't be
as*h*le behavior.
But in others,
it's very, like,
you know, pull back.
- I can't tell if you're taking
any ownership
over your behavior.
- What are you talking about?
I take total ownership
over my behavior.
- Well, you're saying
it's her problem.
- No, I said it's more...
no, it's mine too.
I understand...I said I was
heavy-handed in my response.
But a lot of this, like,
this whole season thing
that she's saying...
I really feel is
more her than me.
- And so where do you go now?
- Really, I go...
if her and I can have
nice, normal conversations...
and I'm not saying we kiss
each other's asses...
but can actually have
a mutual respect
for one another,
I will go off whatever
she gives me.
- Coming up next...
- Dorit has been
largely misunderstood,
and she's definitely
made some mistakes,
but I think the audience should
really give her another chance.
- Back for our final moments
- Back for our final moments
of season eight of
"The Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills" reunion.
Teddi, I always ask
each new housewife
about their experience.
Is this what you expected
when you signed up?
- I really had
no expectations,
so there were hard times
and there were good times,
and I'm leaving more
educated than I came in.
- Rinna, you think the old
Rinna will rise from the ashes,
or is Yoda here to stay?
- What do you all think?
- Yeah, it's coming back.
[laughter]
- She's coming back.
- Properly motivated, yeah.
- [laughs]
- She could only
keep that up for so long.
- Oh, now, now, now.
- Dorit, um...
gosh, man.
You had such a season.
- I know.
- You found yourself in
hot water more than once.
- Yeah.
- You were accused a lot
of talking too much.
- Yeah.
- Anything you would
change about how you
handled situations
with your friends,
or any regrets?
- Yeah, for sure.
I mean,
I've watched things back,
and I wish that
I had acted differently
or handled it differently.
I think there
are some apologies
that I didn't make
that I needed to.
I think accepting some
apologies...I needed to,
and I didn't in that moment,
and you learn a lot
about yourself.
- So, Dorit, where do you
and Teddi go from here?
- I think that we've got
a little bit more work to do.
For sure.
- Fair.
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
- Erika, what will you
be saying yes to next?
- Oh, my God, so many
good things coming through.
- Yeah?
- Yeah, it's great.
Looks good.
The future's good.
- Where do you think you
and Teddi go from here?
- I had a great day,
despite raising my voice.
I was very direct with you,
and I think that it now
we have opened this entire
season and put that to bed.
When I see you again,
we'll know where to go.
- I agree 100%.
- Yeah.
- I feel like the way
we were able to communicate
today was different,
and I feel good, and I feel...
- You feel heard.
And you are heard here.
- I do.
- I hear you.
- So thank you.
- You're very welcome.
But we had to have it out,
baby.
- Yeah. I know.
- [laughs]
We had to have it out.
- This felt like the right way.
- Thank you.
I appreciate that.
- Kyle, you've said you want
a better relationship
with your sisters.
Does that extend
to your friends here?
- Of course, I always expect
a lot from my friends,
you know, I love them a lot.
I love big,
and I expect a lot back.
- Where do you go
from here with Dorit?
- I think that we'll be fine,
honestly.
I think we'll have to sit down
and talk and probably end up,
you know, saying how we were
both hurt a little bit,
and we'll end up laughing
and it'll be fine.
You know, there's nothing
that's irreparable here at all.
- Vanderpump, Lisa Rinna
has not so subtlety told us
that you've changed
in eight years.
How do you think you've grown?
- Oh, wow.
This has been
an extraordinary experience
in terms of how
I've been challenged
just, you know,
in the public arena.
But I've also had
incredible kind of benefits.
I think Kyle has taught me
to be more open
and more kind of
honest with my feelings and not
so guarded and not so British.
I look at Kyle especially
like the sister
that I didn't have.
And maybe that's why we're
kind of a little combative.
- I love you.
- I love you too.
I've enjoyed meeting Teddi.
I've had a great time
with Teddi, but obviously it's
been a bit difficult, you know,
being a good friend of Dorit,
'cause I really do feel that
Dorit has been
largely misunderstood.
And she's definitely
made some mistakes,
and especially when it comes
to our relationship,
but I think the audience should
really give her another chance,
you know, because she's
got a really good heart.
She's a really kind,
supportive friend.
- In honor of the season,
I wanna make a toast.
Let's bring out the champagne
straight from Germany.
- Oh, my God.
- Oh.
- Whoa.
- Where's the lederhosen?
- Now, Dorit,
you have your choice
between champagne
and the beer stein,
or the champagne glass.
- What do you think
I'm gonna choose?
- There you go.
- If it's on offer,
I'll take this.
both: It's champagne.
- The joke just
doesn't get old.
- Well, there you go.
- It never gets old, Dorit.
We're gonna beat this to death.
- I know.
- Cheers.
Should we stand up?
- Yes, everybody.
- [groans]
If we still can.
- [laughs]
- Who wants to lead the toast?
- Oh.
- Rinna.
- Okay, to...
- Oh, yes.
- I know. Well...
[all talking at once]
- To getting to know
each other better,
to supporting one another,
and working through our issues.
I love you all.
- Wow, okay, there we go.
[glasses clinking]
- Cheers.
- I don't wanna break yours,
Dorit.
- I love you.
I love you all.
- Where's my pretzel, damn it?
- To learn more about
the housewives,
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08x21 - Reunion Part 3
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