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08x10 - Deadly Promise

Episode transcripts for the TV show "The Dead Files". Aired: September 2011 to present.*
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"The Dead Files" features two independent investigations into locations that are reported to be haunted. One investigation is performed by a psychic medium, while a former NYPD homicide detective investigates. Each show concludes with a meeting, where they discuss their findings together with the victims.

08x10 - Deadly Promise

Post by bunniefuu »

This is not a good situation.

The person would act
like a complete lunatic.

This used to be
a funeral home.

That's interesting.

The dead people said,
"We claimed him."

I don't like
being here, period.

I'm seeing, like,
a dead girl in here.

I think that this place
does something bad to people.

This seems like a possession.

My name is Amy Allan.

Everything was built on blood.

I see dead people.

Very disturbing.

I speak to dead people.

There's victims around him.
Ow.

And they speak to me.

Her voice sounds like death.

But there's only one way
to know if my findings are real.

The living don't
stand a chance here.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve Di Schiavi.

I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.

You could have
got k*lled.

And I know every person,
every house has secrets.

This is coming
straight from Hell.

It's my job to reveal them.

Your mom was m*rder*d
right here in this room?

Yes, she was.

But Steve and I never speak...

We never communicate
during an investigation.

...until the very end...

This was
just the beginning.

...when we uncover
if it's safe for you to stay...

Oh, my God.

...or time to get out.

They're very bad.

This house
is going to k*ll me.

I'm up here
in the city of Chicago.

I got called in
by a guy named Chris,

who runs a tattoo parlor.

Now, he says things are bad
because employees,

who are not scared of anything,
are scared to be there alone.

But he said the real reason
he called us in

is a promise he made
to his best friend.

And if we can't help him,

he's not gonna be able
to keep that promise.

Before Amy arrives,
I sweep the location,

looking for any
leading information.

I'm going to cover up
and hide anything

that would lead
Amy to figure out

this is a tattoo parlor.

When I'm done, the location will
be ready for tonight's walk.

A little nervous about this one

'cause a man stepped forward.

And he's --
I believe he's an issue here.

He said, uh, "Twist and turns.

Would hate for anyone to learn
the truth of the matter here."

This is not a good situation.

Yeah. It -- Oh, man.

It hurts a lot.

Ooh, lordy, that hurts.

So, Chris, I could tell
just looking at you.

It's got to be hard
for somebody like yourself

to even reach out
for help.

What's going on here?

When I've got my artists
coming up to me,

telling me that they're seeing
shadow figures at night,

girls screaming
from the basement,

things are falling
off the walls,

I've got an issue.

I don't want somebody
getting hurt.

It hasn't happened yet.

But I'm not willing
to take that chance.

Chris, let's get some of
the basics out of the way.

How long have you
owned this place?

-10 years now.
- Okay.

And it's a pretty
big building.

You have the whole
building yourself?

Yes. It's, uh,
1,400 square feet per floor.

We have a basement,

the shop and then
the apartment upstairs.

What about history
of this location?

Do you have any idea
what's going on?

Well, basically, this
used to be a funeral home.

Oh, that's interesting.
So, Chris, normally,

I would tell clients,
why don't you just leave?

But you had mentioned
on the phone

something about a promise.

Yeah.
We can't leave.

Myself
and my two partners

that run the shop,
we made a promise.

Our best friend, Richie,
used to run this tattoo parlor.

And he passed away.

I know
it's hard to talk about.

But what can you tell me
about Richie's death?

Um, he passed away
upstairs.

He was 37 years old.

And he passed away
in his sleep.

Okay.
Uh, now, I got to ask,

was it a drug overdose?

No.
Not at all.

He was in good health,
no drugs, no nothing.

Uh, the autopsy report
said minor heart attack.

So can you tell me
what kind of guy he was?

Heavily tattooed,
very outspoken, charismatic.

Everywhere he went,
he made friends.

You know, yes.
He was a big guy,

to some people,
very intimidating.

But he had a heart of gold.
When he passed away,

there was over 3,000 people
at his wake alone.

- Wow.
- He was the best.

And he still is.
And he still is.

Now, what's the promise?

I promised his son
and his wife

that we would run
this business for them.

And when he turned 18,

we would offer it up
to Richie's son.

Okay.
So how old is he now?

He's 14.

- Getting close.
- Yeah.

It is.
And I just want to make sure

that I'm turning over
a safe environment.

But I don't want to
turn it over,

and then a month later,
something bad happens.

And I can't explain.

Then what would it
have been for

when everything
we do here is for him?

That's incredible.

Richie would have
done it for me.

So we never hesitated
to do it for him.

Down here, there's
a lot of lonely,

sad, depressed,
lost people.

Can you tell anything
about them in life?

They look like
they're dressed up.

You know, I would probably say,

like, late 30s,
early 40s, I would say.

Ooh, geez

I'm getting a male who had
a heart attack back here.

This guy had
a heart attack back here.

And the dead people
from downstairs said,

"We claimed him."

They said,
"We didn't k*ll him.

We just took him."

Basically, "'Cause we can't
leave, he can't leave."

So, Chris,
why'd you bring me here?

Because right up here

is where Richie had
his worst experience.

What happened?

He was coming down
out of his apartment.

And that's when he says
that he's met

by an apparition
named Walter.

They got into
a verbal argument.

And Richie
said that Walter

literally pushed him
from behind,

down the stairs,
all the way down.

His boot hits
the ceiling there,

comes all the way
down these metal steps

and landed right here.

And how bad
did he get hurt?

Surprisingly, he just had
some minor bruises,

no big deal.

I mean, it was a miracle of God
that he didn't die.

This is not a good area.

So there's a guy.

It just seems bad to me.

Like, I don't want to
go in that area

'cause he's in that area.

And he's, like, pacing.

He's very upset.

He keeps flashing between,
like, being 70 and,

like, being, like, 30.

Uh, I did see him,
like, caressing people.

Anyone in particular?

Uh, women,
definitely women.

The males here
are being harmed.

I feel like it's
a lot more physical.

I don't know what he's
doing with the men.

He could be, like,
just assaulting them,

like, torturing them.

Now, you talked about
Richie's experiences.

But what about you?

Right behind you,
at my station,

I have a mask that hung
right above my, uh, desk.

And it kept falling down,
over and over.

Fell down once.
Hit me in the head.

Fell down a second time.
Broke the keyboard.

And there's no problem
with the wall

being sloped
or anything like that.

You don't think
that's the case?

No, 'cause nothing else
has ever fallen.

All right. So what do you
think caused that?

I think it's some
sort of spirit,

some sort of
apparition that --

that likes to torment.

All right.
Well, that's interesting.

Uh, anything else
going on?

Um, the other night,
I was in here doing some work

and started feeling like
something was watching me,

like something was
standing behind me.

So I just, you know,
turned around, looked, nothing.

Have you had
that feeling before?

Yes, I have.

And so have a bunch
of my other artists.

So another five minutes
goes by.

And I'm still feeling
that feeling

in the pit of my stomach
like something's not right.

Went out the front door.

Locked up shop
and said good night

to Richie
like I always do.

You think Richie's here
in spirit?

Yes.

I believe he's watching
over all of us.

Totally, like, got the air
sucked out of me.

Whoa.

This is not a good area.

I think that the living would
feel like they're being watched.

What is this?

It's icky.
It is icky.

I keep seeing the old man,
old-slash-young man.

Like, he's always watching.

But this is something different.

Like, this is something
that's even darker than him.

Oh, it's, like, some
kind of weird cat thing.

This is, like, bad.
It's bad.

I think the living
would hear the scratching.

And I think that
the living are hearing,

uh, screaming and growls.

I don't like it.

So, Nick, I understand
you and Chris are partners

in the business downstairs.
- Yes.

Um, it --
did I hear right,

that you lived up here
at some point?

Yeah,
for 61/2 years.

I understand you were
good friends with Richie.

Yeah.
He made an impact

on everybody's life
that he touched.

This was our home.

And this was a lot
of people's home.

Is it strange being back here?
You feeling anything?

I don't like being here
just period.

So would you say
the reason for that

is because
of the paranormal stuff

or what happened
with Richie?

I think both.

But you still continue
to do it, though.

Our word is our word.
We have to do it.

Rich was a good guy.

And, I -- I mean,
without crying, I mean, I --

that's all I can say.
- Mm-hmm.

I know he would've
took care of my children.

When you were living here,
did you ever feel ill or any --

have any complications,
medically?

Yeah.
I went to the doctor.

And, uh, he did an EKG,
this and that.

And, uh, you know, I had,
like, a small heart attack

that I didn't even know about.
- You're kidding.

I didn't realize
I had a heart attack.

How old were you at the time?
Do you remember?

I was 49.

I'm feeling 10 times better
that I'm not living here.

Okay.
So as far as experiences go,

have you had any?
- Yeah.

I was actually sleeping
in the room right here.

And this door was just closing
back and forth, slamming.

Could it have been wind?

Uh, personally,
I don't think so.

This is
a pretty heavy door.

Okay, Nick.
Anything else?

I would see shadows

when I was in either
my bedroom or in the backroom.

I mean, with all the windows
and lights

going through here,
could it have been coming

from the outside
by any chance?

Uh, no. No.

Did Richie ever tell you

he had paranormal
experiences here?

Yes.

He would sit down
and tell you, "Listen.

I'm not crazy. I know
there's something here."

The thing about that cat thing

is that I think it was human.

So why are you calling
this thing a -- a cat?

Because the way
that it sounds

and the scratching noises
that it makes.

Do you know
if they see him?

- Oh, yeah.
- What do they see?

More than likely, like,
a little black, shadowy blob.

What kind of effect do you
think it would have

on the living that have spent
a lot of time here?

He influences them
to act out.

A person would act
like a complete lunatic.

He's a bad

He wants bad stuff to go down.

So, Neal, I understand you work
as a tattoo artist here.

- Yes. That's right.
- Okay.

So how long have
you worked here?

About 4 years now.

Why'd you take me
down to the basement?

What's the story?

Most, uh, sightings
generally happen down here.

With the stuff that's going
on here with the experiences,

have you had any?

Yes.
I've had many.

Okay.
Tell me about some of 'em.

You can hear,
uh, banging.

And it sounds like someone's
walking around down here

in the middle of the night,
when you're upstairs,

so...

You guys have problems with
rodents or anything like that?

No. This really
sounds like someone

is punching
the ceiling

of the basement
underneath your feet.

Okay.
Anything else?

Real late at night,
when I'm walking up,

standing in the doorway
is a shadow of a man.

And you can see
it very clearly.

Uh, it also feels like
it's looking at you as well.

I wouldn't necessarily
say it's black.

It's more,
uh, just a void.

Uh, it'll make
your stomach turn.

All right.
So what else is going on?

Multiple people have, uh,

claimed that they feel
they've been, um,

groped
or pushed down here.

You can feel it
on your shoulders

the further
you go into the basement.

It's, uh, kind of
like someone's, uh,

pressing
your shoulders down.

Keeping in mind that
over 1,000 corpses

have been in
and out of this place,

uh, if anywhere is haunted,
it's this basement.

I'm seeing, like, like,
a group of dead people.

They're upset,
and they're crying.

And, uh, uh,
they can't get out.

They're confused.
I also think the living,

they would see
these dead people.

And I think they would
see 'em walking in

and out of the walls here.

And I think that people
would feel them,

like, bumping into them.

I'm worried about, uh,
living people

being, uh, here too much

and exposed too much,
uh, because these are all, like,

really depressed people
and

So it -- it causes,
like, suicidal

I think that this place
does something bad to people.

Chris seemed pretty sure
his tattoo shop

used to be a funeral parlor.

And it turns out he's right.

I've managed to track down
a guy who worked there.

And he says the business
was in his family

for nearly 80 years

and that they went through
some really

heartbreaking times there.

When did your family
open the funeral parlor

that my client's,
uh, working in now?

My grandfather, Johnny,
moved into that building in 1922

and then operated it
as a funeral home until 2001.

Uh, this would be a picture
of it going back

to probably the '30s.

So, Mike, what can you tell me
about your grandfather?

My grandfather, Johnny,
was a very artistic man,

was a painter.

But he was a -- a tough man,
too, very headstrong.

You did it his way because
his way was the right way.

Now, Mike, you mentioned on
the phone that, uh, your family

suffered some tragedy.
- Yes.

Uh, my family
had three people

that passed away
very young.

The first one would've
been my Grandma Anna,

uh, passed away at, I believe,
45, when it was 1938.

She had suffered
a acute thyroid condition

that then inflamed
her heart.

And she was dead
within matter of a week.

Now, did she die
in the building?

Yes. She did,
upstairs in the apartment.

Okay.
So that's one.

Who was the second?

The second was my father.

Uh, he had suffered
two heart attacks.

And his third heart attack
proved to be fatal.

He actually died
in the bathroom

of the funeral home,
upstairs in the apartment.

- And how old was he?
-41.

I have a photo
of him here

with my mother
and my oldest brother.

And the last death
in the family

that was way too young
was my brother, David.

- Ah, you're kidding.
- Uh, he passed away at 28.

Uh, but again,
of a heart condition.

What about your grandfather
in all this?

Um, my grandfather,
until the early '70s,

was still active
in the funeral business,

at which point,
old age was setting in.

Uh, and in '75,

they put him
in a nursing home.

And within 2 months,
he passed.

Geez. Okay.

So how old was he at
the time of his death?

Do we know?
-86.

I'm seeing
the old-young man again.

I think he was probably
in his 70s when he died.

I want to say he died, like,
in the '80s or '90s.

So what he's showing me
probably, like,

from the 1940s or '50s.

The old-young man, I think,
lived here at one point in time.

I guess he had a family.
I'm seeing, like,

a dark, uh, space, uh,
like black walls.

And he's doing stuff to women.

And I don't know
if it's okay or not.

It just seems bad to me.

So, Mike, give me the idea
of how it was set up.

Uh, I know that you guys
lived there as well, right?

The residences
were upstairs.

Uh, the first floor
would've been strictly geared

for the funeral business,

whether it be for the wake, uh,
the funeral ceremony.

There's rooms set aside

that are strictly
for embalming.

Can you even put a number
on the amount

of bodies
that were embalmed and --

and -- and viewed there?

It has to be
in the thousands.

So, Mike, I want to thank you
for sharing this with me.

I mean, this is really
personal stuff. And I --

I appreciate you taking
the time to do that.

There, uh, might be one thing
you would want to look into.

In the '80s,
there was a gentleman

who was attending
his brother's wake,

uh, that suffered a heart attack
in the funeral home.

And I don't know
if he survived or not.

This investigation keeps getting
stranger and stranger.

I'm on my way to meet the woman
whose brother-in-law

had that heart attack right

in the middle
of her husband's wake.

She's agreed to tell me
exactly what happened.

So, Virginia, I appreciate

you taking the time
to talk with me.

Um, I know
it's been a long time.

But I want to extend
my condolences

on your
husband's passing.

Thank you.

Um, your husband's name
was Edwin, correct?

Right.
Okay. What can
you tell me about him?

Well, he was a --
a very outgoing person.

He liked -- loved people.

He loved parties.

Virginia, when did you guys
wind up getting married?

We had gotten married
in, uh, May of 1961.

- Okay.
- And when we got married,

we moved, uh, next door
to the funeral home.

How long did you guys
live there?

30 years.
We lived there for 30 years.

So were you living there

at the time of, uh,
Edwin's death?

- Yes.
- You were?

Yes, yes.

So, Virginia,
if it's okay with you,

how -- how did Edwin pass?

It was the day
before Mother's Day.

He had a heart attack.
- Okay.

How old was he?
- He was 54.

Okay.
So he was young.

Yes.
Very young.

Very shocking.

We were gonna celebrate
25 years.

And, uh,
the invitations were out.

- Okay.
- And so it shocked everybody

because everybody
had an invitation

to come to our
anniversary party.

And they wound up
coming to a wake.

Mm-hmm.

I know his brother had
a heart attack at the wake.

What can you tell me
about him?

Here's a picture
of Walter.

Walter was sort of
a quiet guy.

But he was
a very good husband

and a very, uh,
hard worker.

So what happened to him?

Walter came to the wake
like everybody else.

There were hundreds
of people there.

And so it was very crowded.

And then, uh, he --
he had a heart attack.

This is Walter's
death certificate.

So according to this,
he was 63 at the time he died.

Right. Right.

That's a shame.
I'm sorry to hear that.

Yeah. So a guy died
from a heart attack.

Apparently, he's shoved
somewhere where they keep them.

Where is he?

He's in the special place.

Okay.

I think they've gotten
a little demented,

um, and angry.

The old-young man
and the cat thing

are keeping the dead people

in the basement trapped.

Dead people, uh,
are now collecting,

um, newly deceased
individual's souls.

Any idea why
they are doing that?

Revenge.

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Click on "Help Me, Dead Files!"
to submit your story,

and we'll help if we can.

So far, I've got
at least four people

who died of a heart attack
in the building,

all of them young.

Plus, the place used
to be a funeral home.

So thousands of bodies
came through.

This place has seen
a lot of death.

But I want to see
if there's anything else.

Searching for old records,
I find Anne Noble,

the original property
owner's wife.

Turns out, Anne died
under mysterious circumstances,

either from a m*rder
or a suicide.

I'm heading over to meet
with a local genealogist

who says justice,
in this case,

may have never been served.

Jeanne, I appreciate
you helping me out

with this case.

Before we get to the suspicious
death of this woman,

what were you able to find
out about the family?

Major Noble was 22

when he immigrated to
the United States from England.

He's in the Chicago area
in the early 1840s

with his wife, Anne,
and two children.

Okay. So when does he acquire
my client's property?

In 1843, he acquires
160 acres of land.

It's primarily prairie land
that hasn't been cultivated.

And he's a farmer.

He also operated
a tavern on that land.

Okay.
So, Jeanne,

take me through
what happened with Anne.

What were
the circumstances?

Well, in 1845,

she was found dead
in her bed, uh,

with a long
cotton cloth tied

around her neck.
- Okay.

So what'd they say
happened to her?

Well, they held
a coroner's inquest.

But they actually failed
to make a decision.

What they said was that
it was death by strangulation

either at her own hand

or at the hand
of an unknown person.

All right.
So they're basically

saying
she was either m*rder*d

or she committed suicide.
What about the husband?

They ever question him?
- No.

I don't think it's a suicide
'cause, in my experience,

I've never seen anybody
strangle themselves to death,

you know, laying down
in a bed.

So I'm leaning
90% homicide,

10% suicide
that was covered up.

And whether the husband did it
or not, I'm not sure.

I'm curious what
your thoughts are.

That's really difficult
to say.

This was a tavern.

So you had people
that you didn't know

coming through the household.
- All right.

So it -- it's basically
all speculation.

But anything's possible.
And it's still an open case.

It's still a mystery.

Okay.

I don't like this.

I'm seeing, like,
a dead girl in here.

And she seems to be
trapped in this room.

She's in her 20s.

I don't know
if she k*lled herself

or if somebody k*lled her.

She does say that she didn't
want to live anymore,

that everything was too hard.

But her heart goes.
Her heart goes.

I'm gonna say she --
she, uh, k*lled herself.

She said, "Well, I don't
go out there because,

have you seen it?
It's terrifying."

And that's in reference
to the dead people

being trapped here.
- Okay.

She doesn't want to
get put down in there.

I encountered several
disturbing things on my walk.

But the group of dead people

in the basement
surrounding a man

who had a heart attack
had me the most concerned.

Up towards the entrance,
there was a fuzzy mass.

And it's really dark.

And there's a group
of dead people

that are standing
at the bottom of the stairs.


They really want to leave.

And they feel trapped.

Amy,
is this what you saw?

Yes.

Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,

we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other

and our clients
for the first time.

Amy, you probably didn't
realize it during your walk.

But, obviously,
this is a tattoo parlor.

This is Neal.
He works here.

And this is Chris,
who owns the place.

Activity's bad.

And they're worried
for everybody's safety.

But that's not the real reason
we were called in.

We're really here
because Chris had made

a promise to his best friend.

And I'll leave it
at that for now

until I know a little bit
more about your walk.

I was upstairs.
And I went into the bigger room.

And I saw this black mass.

And it was kind of fuzzy.

This thing is not good.

It -- it definitely
affects the living

in a very negative way.

The biggest thing that I got
is that you would feel

like you were being
watched by this thing

because
it's always around.

And I think,
all around the place,

you would hear, like,
scratching noises,

um, a strange growl,
like,

as if it was coming
from a cat, though, you know.

But it's not a cat.

I was able to figure out,

towards the end of my walk,
that this entity was,

in fact,
human at one point

and would have been on
the premises pre-1940s

and was a bad man.

Well, feeling watched,
you and I talked about.

Yeah.
The other night,

I had some stuff to do.

And I felt like something
was staring at me from behind.

- Mm-hmm.
- So I turned around, looked.

Nobody there.

I can attest to that.

I will stay late sometimes.

And you can feel
someone looking at you.

And you turn around.

And sure enough,
nothing's there.

Neal, you talked to me
about hearing strange noises.

Right?
- Uh, yeah.

I'll be sitting there,
tattooing someone.

And it sounds
like someone's

punching the floor
underneath my feet.

And I've gone down there.
There's nothing there.

I've had customers
even ask me,

"What's that noise?"

And then, uh, basically,
we just tell 'em,

"It's, uh,
it's the ghost."

So what else?

So then I went down
to the basement.

And what I encountered
was a lot of dead people.

And they are very sad,
very depressed and angry.

And I got different time
periods with them, uh,

because of their clothing.

This is,
like, '20s, '30s, '40s.

Right.

And they were
all dressed very well.

I have a pretty good idea
what you saw, uh, down there.

From 1922 to 2001, uh,
the building was a funeral home.

- Ooh.
- It was a family-run business,

uh, started by a guy
named John Klemundt.

I actually spoke
to a family member

who worked here for 25 years.

And he gave me this picture

of when it was a funeral parlor.

And they lived in
the apartment upstairs.

He told me thousands
of bodies came through here.

Yeah. They would
embalm the bodies here.

Uh, and they held the wakes
and the funerals

right here at least
almost every single day,

which is maybe when you saw
dead people all dressed up.

Interesting.

Now, the dead people,

do they do anything
to the living?

Yeah.

If the living
were to spend

a lot of time downstairs,

the living would feel
that depression

and possibly suicidal.

I think that the living
would see these people as,

like,
black shadow figures.

And I think because
they're so physical that

if the living
were down there,

I actually think
that people would feel

like they were
being bumped into.

If you go down there, you feel,
uh, pressure on your shoulders.

And it kind of
envelopes you.

And it's pretty
uncomfortable.

- Oh
- Yeah.

Everybody runs up
those stairs.

And you guys don't look
like you scare easy.

Nah.
I don't scare easy at all.

But a shadow figure,

I've seen it a couple
times here and there.

But Neal sees it
on a daily basis.

I see it at least
four times a week.

It's a void.

I wouldn't even call it black.
It's empty.

So the thing about
the people downstairs

is that they feel trapped.

Their attitude has become,

"If we're stuck here,
y'all are gonna be, too."

So anybody
who would die here

now would become
trapped by them.

The other thing I got,
I was walking up

to the top
of those stairs.

And there was, uh, a male
who came in really quickly.

And he had a heart attack.

And he died.

And he is their first,

like, victim as far
as being trapped.

So they're holding him
here

just like they've
been held here.

And so I had a sketch done
of what I saw.

Any idea when this guy
had a heart attack?

In the last 20--
20 years, I guess.

So these dressed-up people
are the dead in the basement?

Yes.

And they've taken this guy
who had a heart attack?

Yes.

I don't think I'll be looking
at the stairs the same again.

Never again.

Well, obviously, we --
we need to talk about Richie.

- Yes.
- Um, now,

that's Chris' best friend
I was telling you about,

who he made a promise to.

This is a photo
of Richie right here.

He was
a very charismatic guy.

He was always very open,
very gracious.

If he could do
something for you,

you never even had to ask.

He would just do it
for you.

Do me a favor and take
Amy through Richie's death.

Richie was celebrating
his 37th birthday.

He used to live upstairs.

He went to sleep,
did not wake up.

He had
a mild heart attack.

He just passed away
in his sleep.

Now, do me a favor and tell her
about that promise you made.

When he passed away,
his son was 4 years old.

- Oh, man.
- We made a promise to his son

and to his son's mother
that we would reopen this shop.

And in any way,
we would help.

Here's a picture of Odin,
Richie's son.

He's, what, about 14?

- Yes. He just turned 14.
- He's a good kid.

Now, the thing is,
when he turns 18,

Chris is ready to turn it over.

But with what's
going on here,

he don't know
if he could do that.

And that's the reason
we're here.

So for the last 10 years,
that's why we've been here.

That's why this place
means so much to us

'cause this was Richie's.

This was our home.

Now, is this Richie?

Well, more than likely.

That just kind of
puts a little pit in --

in my stomach.
- Yeah.

Now, you mentioned
that these people claim

anyone who dies here, right?

- Yes.
- I got to tell you,

I've never seen so many people
die young in one building.

The Klemundts, the family
who owned the funeral parlor,

they lost three family members
here under the age of 50.

The first was Anna Klemundt,
the wife of John,

the guy who originally
bought the place

and opened it up
as a funeral parlor.

She died in 1938
of a heart attack.

Uh, she's about
45 years old.

The next death was her
and John's son, Richard,

who died after
his third heart attack

in the upstairs bathroom
in 1963.

- Mm.
- He was 41 when he died.

Now, there's a third one
who was John's grandson,

David, who died
of a heart attack in 1984.

So that's another
heart attack?

- Right.
- Mm.

Um, he was only 28.

Now, it gets worse.

In 1986, they were
holding a funeral

for a dead guy
named Edwin Cudecki.

He died from, of course,
a heart attack.

Edwin's brother, Walter...

Edwin's brother,
Walter?

...came here to do visitation

with his brother at the wake

and had a heart attack
right here.

I hope you're ready
for this. Okay.

One day, Richie came down
to the front steps...

- Mm-hmm.
- ...got into an argument

with an apparition.

The apparition tells him,
"My name's Walter.

What are you doing here?"

Richie gets pushed,
goes head over heels

down those 15
to 20 metal steps.

- Yeah.
- Oh, my God.

- And he landed on the ending.
- Now, tell me the truth.

Did you know about
this guy, Walter?

- No.
- You didn't?

No.
I -- I had no idea.

But as for the rest
of all these heart attacks

and this guy, Walter,
that died of a heart --

heart attack, heart attack,
heart attack, heart attack...

I'm really worried
about you guys.

So the person that I'm
most concerned about

is a nasty,
old man that I encountered.

The way I think
he would affect the living,

uh, would be,

uh, women might feel

like they're
being caressed.

Not a nice caressed.
A sexually aggressive.

- Kind of like a grope?
- Yeah.

He sees men as a threat.

I saw him trying to cause

physical pain to men,
in particular.

So this guy that
you're worried about,

you think he's the one
that might have shoved

Richie down the stairs?

Oh, yeah.
I could see that.

You get anything about
this guy while he was alive?

I thought that he lived here
at one time.

He kept showing himself
at the age of, like,

30 and then
at the age of, like, 70.

I think
that he died recently,

like,
in the '80s or '90s.

The things
that I saw him doing,

uh, when he was younger
and alive,

uh, to women, like,
I actually was, like,

"Is this consensual
or not?"

Now, it's probably not the guy
you're -- you're talking about.

But the only one that fits

the time frame
is the original guy

that owned this place,
John Klemundt.

Now, this guy didn't die
in the '80s or '90s.

He -- he died in 1975.

But he was 86 at the time.

I actually got a photo of him.

The only thing he did
to women was embalm them.

Let me ask you a question.

Is it possible you could
have misinterpreted, uh,

embalming somebody as doing
something nasty to women?

It could be.
That makes sense.

Okay.
So based on this picture,

any chance the guy you saw
could be John Klemundt?

That's extremely likely.

The biggest concern
is this guy

and the fuzzy thing.

They said that they were
working together,

trapping the dead here,
these other dead people.

And the dead people downstairs
are becoming spiteful.

So now they are like,

"If we're trapped, y'all are
gonna be trapped, too."

So Klemundt and this fuzzy thing
are causing the heart attacks?

Correct.

For such a great, nice,
caring, gentle giant

of a man to be
stuck is horrible.

This is not
a good place.

It's just gonna get worse
and worse and worse.

One of y'all will probably
have a heart attack,

which then means

you're putting his son
into harm's way.

So that's not good.

Now, Chris, I know you're
a stand-up guy.

And you brought us in here
to do the right thing

by your best friend.
I got to tell you,

They don't make guys
like you anymore.

Thank you.

Now, to see if you can safely
hand this place over to Odin,

I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.

Here's the thing.
Now, you love him.

And you love Richie.
- Yes. Very much.

Right. And you're doing
the right thing

by supporting him
and his mom.

But you have to do
more of the right thing.

Okay.

So you've got all these people
who are trapped.

You've got this
lunatic trapping them

and giving them heart attacks,
which puts, you know,

all of you guys here
at risk as well.

They need to be released

so everybody can be
at peace and happy.

So here's what's
gonna be done.

You're going
to find a priest

who is going
to do an exorcism.

You're gonna give him
the keys to the place.

And you're gonna shut this place
down for 72 hours.

You're not gonna know
when this priest

is gonna come in here
and do his thing.

When he does the exorcism,

he is going
to banish this guy

and the black thing.

Once they're gone,
these people are gonna be happy.

And they're going
to take off.

Why do they need
to shut down for 72 hours?

Because there's such
a strong attachment

to Richie here with
the people that love him,

one of the worries

is that can inadvertently
trap him here.

We want it
to be his decision,

once he's released
from their grip,

his decision what
he's going to do.

No living person
with any feelings

towards Richie
can be here.

It has to be just him.

Richie, I'm never
gonna let go of.

He's -- he's in my heart.

You need to give him
the option to leave.

He's never gonna be gone.
You have a gift.

And you see things
differently than --

than 99.9%
of the world.

We all see things
in our way.

Uh, the bottom line
is Richie needs to get released.

And you need to let go.

I ultimately want
what's best for my friend.

Yes. If that's
what needs to be done,

then that's what needs
to, uh, be done.

And then I'll get past
my own personal,

mental and even
emotional stuff on my own.

I understand
how difficult it can be

to let go of a friend
who has passed.

But I believe
if Chris brings in a priest

to perform an exorcism,

the dead that are trapped
will be set free.

And Chris can keep
that promise he made

to the friend he loved so much.