08x12 - Skin Walker

[bunniefuu]

I don't know how people
could live here.

I think this was recent.

And I think she was m*rder*d.

It's like we're goin'
through hell every day here.

I think it wants us to die.

This thing can k*ll them,
take their souls.

Whatever's here,
it's evil.

What is this
a gateway to?

Hell.

Bad, bad things can happen.

This seems like a possession.

My name is Amy Allan.

Everything was built on blood.

I see dead people.

Very disturbing.

I speak to dead people.

There's victims around him.
Ow.

And they speak to me.

Her voice sounds like death.

But there's only one way
to know if my findings are real.

The living don't
stand a chance here.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve Di Schiavi.

I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.

You could've got k*lled.

I know every person,
every house has secrets.

This is comin'
straight from hell.

It's my job to reveal them.

Your mom was m*rder*d
right here in this room.

Yes, she was.

But Steve and I never speak...

We never communicate
during an investigation.

...until the very end.

This was just the beginning.

We uncover if it's safe
for you to stay...

Oh, my God.

...or time to get out.

They're very bad.

This house is going
to k*ll me.

I'm in the very small
town of Hardinsburg, Indiana,

about 45 minutes
from the Kentucky border.

I got a call
from a woman named Norma.

Now, she sounded really bad.

She said she moved
into her sister's house

to take care of her elderly dad.

Since then, she's been
literally tortured,

battered, and bruised by
the paranormal activity there.

She told me, if we can't get rid
of what's in the house,

somebody's gonna die.

Before Amy arrives,
I need to sweep the area

and remove anything
that can influence her findings.

Items such as family photos,

religious icons,

and even medical equipment
need to be hidden from view.

When I'm finished, the location

will be ready
for tonight's walk.

So, this whole area is
basically just kind of

And, like, I don't know
how people could live here

because it just feels like
there's so much in the darkness.

This all feels bad.

So, I think there might
be a gateway here.

So, what is
this a gateway to?

Hell.

Norma, I got to tell you,
I'm glad I'm here

because when we spoke
on the phone,

you sounded
pretty stressed out

about what you and the family
are goin' through.

I'm very stressed.

It's like we're goin'
through hell every day here.

I'm afraid somebody's gonna get
hurt really bad or even k*lled.

It's that bad?
Yep.

All right.
So who all lives here?

My sister and her husband,
Gary and Patty.

Okay.

And my dad and me.

All right, Norma, do me a favor
and just tell me

what you guys are
experiencing here.

We hear knocking sounds.

We feel like
we're being watched.

We hear growling.

We're seein' things
moved on their own.

We've also
had physical att*cks.

I don't think I could
take it much more, honestly.

And it worries me
about Daddy, too,

'cause he is old, you know?

And he's more vulnerable,
I think, than us.

Yeah. I know you came here
to take care of your dad.

I did, yes.
How bad is he?

What's his, you know,
prognosis?

He's really bad.

He's in hospice care.

Okay.

He has failing heart,
failing lungs, failing kidneys.

I just hope nothin' hurts him
or makes him die sooner.

You know, we shouldn't
have to go through that.

Nobody should.

What do you think
whatever's here wants?

I think there's evil here.

Honestly, I think
it wants us to die.

So, whether there is some kind
of gateway here or nearby,

I don't feel like
it's necessarily

directly affecting
this location.

But I think that
many people knew, uh,

that this was not a good place.

And they stayed away from it.

I'm, like, scared.

I want to run away.

I'm feelin' really anxious
and uncomfortable.

So, Norma,
I see the hospital bed

and the oxygen t*nk in here.

I'm assuming this is
where your dad stays?

It is, yes.
Okay.

So, I'm curious about
your dad bein' in here.

Is he havin' experiences?

Yeah, he's experienced things.
You can tell.

But he won't...
But he won't talk about it.

I'm just worried
about my dad.

If somethin' was to bother him,
it could k*ll him.

Now, what about you?
What about experiences?

Uh, I was layin'
on the couch.

And I felt
this arm behind me.

Is it possible it could have
been one of the animals?

No.
They sleep in my sister's room.

Were you in, like,
about-to-fall-asleep stage?

Oh, no.
I was layin' here watchin' TV.

So you were wide awake.

Yeah, wide awake.

That's interesting. Okay.
Anything else?

Well, we stay
pretty depressed here.

And you feel very sad.

And then you also get angry.

It's like you have
a very big mood swing.

How are you handling things
emotionally here?

Not very well.
I feel like I'm goin' crazy.

I've been through a lot,
believe me.

But I feel like if I left,
I'd be desertin' my dad.

And I'd be desertin'
my sister.

It's like I don't have
a choice, you know.

So I feel like a prisoner.
And that's horrible.

But I do.

Okay.

This place is not good.

I don't like it.

I feel an extreme amount
of anxiety.

And I don't know
if it's, like --

if that's how people
feel here, in general,

or if I'm freakin' out.

I saw a couple of people
lined up against the fence.

And they all looked
pretty up.

So, most of them are
in their death state still.

And, uh, they're
different people.

It seems like
different time periods.

They're kept hidden
most of the time.

It's just intense negativity.
It's evil.

So, Norma, I got to assume
this is your bedroom.

Yes.
It is.

Okay. What are you
experiencing in here?

My fan right back here

has been thrown across
the room twice in one night.

Did you see it fly?

I heard it.
I heard a big boom.

Okay.
And I got up and looked.

And my fan was over
here on the floor.

And it wasn't on.

And it was all the way
over to my dresser.

So it wasn't like it
just fell down.

Okay.
Anything else?

Yes, shadow figures,
big and small.

Now, are you seeing
these shadow figures

just in this room
or all over the house?
It's all over the house.

- All over.
- Yep.

I mean, how the hell
do you sleep here at night?

I don't.

I usually sleep with
my sister and her husband.

Nobody feels comfortable
sleepin' in here.

I just feel like I'm
in constant danger in here.

You do want to --
want to just hide somewhere.

But there's nowhere to hide.

So, you know,
that makes it hard.

You okay?
Yeah, just tryin' to be strong.

Yeah.

At first, I thought this gateway
might be causing problems here.

But it's really
something else.

I'm seein'
a weird-lookin' thing.

And, uh, the term skin walker
is associated with it.

This thing's, like,
really well-advanced.

So it's old.

And it's huge.

But its arms are like this.

I definitely think
the living would see him.

And the way that
they would see him

is a very tall, huge shadow.

Yeah.
This thing comes in here.

I mean, he storms through here
like he owns the place.

And I also think

that they would hear stuff
being knocked over.

Like, when it comes in here,

it, like, covers
the ceiling in here.

You can't escape this room
when it comes in here.

And then it branches out into,
like, this black tent.

And it just completely
surrounds the people.

The living, I think,
are really feeling

this sense of being trapped.

And they don't understand

why they're so [bleep]
miserable.

So, Chyanne, I understand
you're Norma's niece

and that you lived here
for a while

after your mother
passed away.

Yeah.
I used to live with my mom.

And then when she passed,
I moved here.

And that's when everything
started hittin' the fan.

Tell me about the experiences
you had when you were here.

I had nightmares all the time
when I lived here.

What are the dreams about?

They were about my mother.

She would be smiling at me
with her arms open.

And then I would
go to hug her.

And she would just
turn into this awful

monster-like thing,
like, demonic.

Her arms would
come out like a snake.

And she'd start choking me

and saying she was
gonna drag me to hell.

What makes you think
your nightmares

are caused
by the paranormal?

I think the spirits knew

that I was suffering
at that time.

And it was using
her against me.

It was something
taking on her form

trying to deceive me

into thinking
it's something good

when it wants to do harm.

Anything else?

I saw,
in the living room,

this really freaky
spiderlike creature.

It was huge.

What color was it?

Black, solid black.

Okay.
I was really freaked out.

I just went straight
to my bedroom.

I think the best thing you
ever did was move out of here.

When I was here,
I was depressed.

I hated everyone.
Okay.

I even got put on medication

because my stress and anxiety

and depression was so great.

And then I left.
And I don't need it anymore.

What do you think's goin' on
in the property here?

I think that whatever's here,
it's evil.

This skin walker thing,
it's always watching them.

It makes me very
uncomfortable and nervous.

I don't like it at all.

It can easily take on their --
the dead people's forms.

It seems to be
using some dead people,

um, that are familiar

to the living
for them to encounter.

You know, it would be like
you're, uh, sleeping.

You wake up.
You see, you know,

your grandfather
standing there.

And that would be a good thing.

But this is not.

And it's bad.

It makes them embrace
the dark side.

It's like a subconscious thing.

It's like a manipulation thing.

But they're not
even aware of it.

Bad, bad things can happen.

It seems like the whole family's
goin' through a lot of stuff.

Yes.

Okay.
And I assume you are, as well.

Right.
Do me a favor.

Just take me through some of
the experiences you have.

I've seen an apparition
of a man.

It was a male white man.

He had on a white T-shirt
and a pair of blue jeans.

To be honest, I thought
it was my husband.

And then it disappeared.

So, anything else goin' on?

The bed has shook
on us before.

When you say it shakes,
what do you mean?

- It just...
- It's kind of like -- like that.

But it's the whole bed.

I mean, you're sure
it's not trucks goin' by?

It's not.

You're positive
of that, then?

I'm positive.

Okay, anything else that
you've seen or heard?

Well, I felt something
get up off the bed one night.

And it walked right
over by my side.

And it gave a really
horrible loud growl.

It sounded demonic.

What did you do
when you heard that?

I pretended like I was asleep,
hopin' it'd go away.

That literally scared me
half to death.

And I was afraid to move.

This skin walker thing,
it was just, like,

growling and just freaky.

I feel like the bed's shaking.
I'm hearing a bang.

There's a lot, I mean,
a lot of weird [bleep]

This thing -- This thing,
it's making, um,

somebody see all these things.

This is causing hallucinations

because a lot
of the things are not real.

They're being induced by
this thing, which is real.

Massive amounts
of anger in here.

Feeling ruined,
absolutely ruined.

Seems like since
I've lived here, though,

my health has just been
declining rapidly.

In what way?

Been diagnosed with Ménière's
disease, sciatica.

I've been diagnosed
with fibromyalgia.

People get sick,
I mean, every day.

So what makes you think
what you're goin' through

is paranormal?

Because I wasn't like
that when we moved here.

And all of a sudden,
I just -- I stay sick.

In fact, they got me on all
that medicine over there

in that orange basket.

So, Patty, with all the hell
that's goin' on here,

I mean, how's its toll
on you, emotionally?

Really bad.

Really bad.

I feel like I'm goin' crazy.

Sometimes, I feel like I'm about
to have a nervous breakdown.

But I have to
hold it together.

Are you okay?

Yeah.

I have to be.

My dad,
he's livin' here now.

And his health
is failing him.

And it's really hard
to watch.

Yeah.
I bet it is.

And I really don't
want to see him die.

It's tearin' me apart.

So, this person has been,

like, turned insane
by this thing.

And then I'm feeling
really drained and really sick.

Ow. Ow.
So much physical pain.

I hate it.

The skin walker can go
wherever it wants.

Why are they called
skin walkers?

What does that mean?

Because they can transform
into other people.

It can take
on the form of humans.

But this one is, like,
collecting people,

you know, dead people.

They steal people,
k*ll them,

take their souls.

This is an extremely
small town, 248 people.

So the second I called
the local historian,

he knew all about
Norma's property.

Turns out it was owned
by a fanatical preacher

who led an armed revolt
against his own church.

So, Jeremy, this,
uh, crazy preacher,

who was this guy?

Martin Ellis was, uh,

an extremely devout
Baptist minister.

We know that in 1850,

he bought
your clients' property.

I think Martin Ellis believed
that he was a prophet.

So it -- it caused a pretty
deep division in the church.

Okay.
So what happens?

In 1858, the church
called for an investigation.

And, basically, they determined
that he was blasphemous.

So him and his followers

were kicked out.

All right.
So, now, what does he do

after he's, uh,
basically thrown out?

Well, he continued
to minister to his followers.

Okay. So where'd
he wind up preaching?

On the property that you're
investigating at his home.

On the phone,
you mentioned he led

an armed revolt
against his own church.

Tell me what happened.

In January of 1860,

him and his congregation
went down

to the old
Unity Baptist Church

and took control
of the church.

They busted in.

And then they changed
all the locks

on the windows and doors

and wouldn't allow the other
congregation to come back.

So this guy, he's out there.

Yes, sir.

All right, so what about all
the other people

that didn't follow him?

Where did they go?

The regular Baptist congregation
eventually came and --

and built this church
here behind us.

This church here?
Yes, sir.

And that's where
they began to meet.

Okay.

I'm seeing a woman.
She was on her knees.

She's looking up at a man.

He has a black coat on.

And he had a g*n
in his left hand.

He goes, "Now, you will go
where the demons dwell."

I saw a church
because I do think

that something bad happened
to the structure.

People were fleeing.

And I heard,
"They think we are evil,"

uh, "They won't let God in."

So far, I've got a family
living in fear

on a property once owned
by a religious fanatic

who led an armed revolt
against his own church.

But I want to see
if there's anything else.

Searchin' through old records,

I find an article
about a woman

who was brutally
m*rder*d in 2000.

Turns out her attacker used
to live in my clients' house.

I've reached out
to a true-crime writer

who knows the story well.

He says Arthur John Bryant
k*lled his stepmom

in cold blood.

Well, David,
thanks for meeting with me.

I appreciate that.
All right.

So, in my research,

I came across this homicide

that's directly related
to my clients' property.

Uh, what were you able
to find out about the family?

Well, it seems that
your clients' property

was formerly occupied

by a woman by the name
of Christie Bryant.

Uh, she was recently divorced
from her husband, Lee.

And she was living there
with her teenage son, Arthur.

And do we know
how old the kid was?

He was 17 at the time.

Okay.
So what happens?

Christie didn't have, uh,
an easy time with her son.

He was always fighting
with his mother.

Uh, according to
the court records,

he att*cked her
on at least one occasion

and, uh,
tried to choke her.

And, uh, she had
a hard time with him.

And, eventually, she couldn't
take it anymore.

She kicked him
out of the house.

And Arthur went to live
with his father, Lee,

and his new wife, Carol.

Okay, so what happens?

In these new surroundings,

it seemed that his rage
only intensified.

And his stepmother, Carol,

became the focus of this
deep-seated anger he had.

And, uh, there were
a lot of fights

between the two of them.

And he even wrote, you know,

quasi poetry and rap lyrics

where he fantasized
about k*lling his stepmother.

So can you take me through
what happened with the homicide?

Uh, it seems that
January 4, 2000,

that's when everything
came to a head.

They had a big fight
at home, uh, Arthur

and his stepmother, Carol.

And then both of them
were gone from the house.

When Arthur's father,
Lee, came home,

his wife didn't come home.

He actually called the police

and filed
a missing-persons report.

And, uh, 3 days later is

when they found
Carol's abandoned car.

They, uh, towed it back
to the impound lot.

And there,
they opened the trunk.

And in the back,
they found Carol.

According to the death
certificate, she was strangled.

You know, it's a shame.

This woman was only,
uh, 35 years old.

All right.
So they arrest Arthur.

What happens next?

He was convicted of,
uh, m*rder,

theft, and obstruction
of justice.

He got over
80 years.

There's, um, a female.

And she's extremely
depressed and crying.

I heard, like, someone's
missing, like, they took her.

I think she's dead.
I think this was recent.

And I think she was m*rder*d.

How recent?

Within the last, like,
15 years, I'd say.

I mean, she's cryin' her
[bleep] off, this chick.

Oh, my God.

I'm gettin' a neck pain, wicked.

Holy [bleep]

The neck problems
are ridiculous.

Like, it literally goes all
the way around like a collar.

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So, another thing got
my attention in research.

A family named the Pittmans

lived on the land
for 50 years

and suffered some
heartbreaking tragedies there.

I tracked down the daughter of
the guy who built Patty's house.

I'm headed there to meet
with her to find out

exactly what happened.

So, Sandra, I understand

that you actually grew up
in this house.

Is that right?
Yes. I did.

My father built
this house in 1970.

Actually, here's
a picture of him

and my grandfather building it.
Oh, look at that.

They're puttin'
the foundation in.

Mm-hmm.
Now, Sandra, I --

I know your family had
a lot of the property here

for a long time.

Yes, this is part
of the original, um,

40 acres that my grandma
and grandpa owned.

On the phone,
you mentioned your family

suffered some tragedy here.

Um, there was a tragedy
around the property.

There was a
really bad car accident

that involved two
of my cousins.

Okay.
When was this?

May 23, 1979.

Okay, what happened?

They were coming down
the road too fast...

Okay.
...hit a tree, flipped.

And my cousin Randy,
he was ejected.

And, um, the car landed

on top of him
and crushed him.

Oh, geez.

He skidded the rest
of the way down the hill.

I mean, on the --
Here's the death certificate.

It says, "Auto overturned,
rolled over subject,

massive internal injuries."

So...

And he was
only 16 years old.

Oh, geez.

So how close was
the accident to the house?

It was less than 100 feet
from the property.

So everybody in the neighborhood
must've heard what happened.

They had to have
heard the noise

and probably
came out running.

It was horrible,
just the wailing and --

and crying.

This is not good.

Somethin' about a car
accident happening.

And it's something
involving a male.

Whoever this is, like,

I feel like their legs
are shaking.

They feel weak.

I think he d*ed.

And I see the skin walker
hovering over his body.

I'd say this happened,
like, anywhere from,

like, 1970 to,
like, 1990s, maybe.

So, now I'm seeing
there's this woman.

This is, like,
a living person.

And she's, like,
running down the road screaming,

"What did you do?

What did you do?"

She's freakin'
the [bleep] out.

They can't believe
this is happening.

Like, "Oh, my God.
This can't be happening.

This can't be happening,
cannot be happening."

They're scared.

Is there anything else
you can remember

that happened
with the family?

Well, as if
that wasn't enough,

um, that very same year,

my dad was diagnosed

with a rare lung disease
similar to black lung,

like you would get if you had
ever been in a coal mine.

Well, did he work
in a coal mine?
No.

And this was
something they say,

you know, was rare, you know,
one in a billion get.

He passed away
in September of 1980.

He was 42.

Sounds like you guys
really had a lot of tragedy.

We did.
We had a lot of good times.

But we had a lot of tragedy.

Oh.
Just illness.

I just feel horrible amount
of illness in here.

I feel like, you know,
a male d*ed here.

Ow.
So much physical pain.

I hate it.

I see somebody with,
like, an oxygen t*nk,

like, an oxygen mask,
terrible lung problems.

Ah
My stomach. Oh, my God.

[Bleep]
Feel, like, a stabbing pain.

Ow.

I saw several disturbing
things on my walk.

But the skin walker
taking a soul

from a car accident
has me the most concerned.

It has a strange face.

And its head is made out of,

like, roots and bark.

And there's a car that's, like,

wrecked and then, like,

a male that's dead.

And then the thing's there.

And it's taking his image.

Is this what you saw?

Yes.

Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,

we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other

and our clients
for the first time.

So, Amy, these three ladies

are some of the most desperate
clients we've ever had.

Now, Norma's the one
that called this in.

Uh, this is her sister, Patty.

And this is Chyanne,
Patty's stepdaughter.

Now, Norma moved in here
about 2 years ago

to help take care
of her dying father.

Problem is, she and all
the ladies here

are convinced that
whatever's in this house

is tryin' to k*ll 'em.

The activity got so bad,
Chyanne had to move out.

So now that Amy knows
a little bit about you guys,

I'm gonna ask her
to describe her walk for us.

When I first got here,
I encountered a female.

And she had
been m*rder*d.

This was fairly recently,
within the last 15 years.

Uh, I felt a lot of pain
in my neck and head.

She was extremely
depressed and crying.

She felt like
she hadn't been found yet.

But I got that she had.

And so I'm like,
"Maybe it's her soul?"

She's a lost soul.

I really got a pretty good idea
who you're talkin' about.

The previous owner
of Patty's property,

uh, was a woman
named Christie Bryant.

Now, she was a single mom

that lived here
with her teenage son, Arthur.

Now, this kid
was a real piece of work.

He was rebellious and violent.

Uh, court records say he hit
his mom and even choked her.

Oh, my God.

Actually, things got
so far out of hand

with this kid Arthur
here that the mother sent him

to go live
with his father, Lee,

and his stepmother, Carol.

He had a serious rage
towards Carol,

even wrote rap lyrics
talking about k*lling her

and throwing her body
into the trunk of a car.

Oh, wow.

Now, on January 4, 2000,
it came to a head.

And Arthur and Carol
had a huge fight.

After that,
they both disappeared.

Three days later,
Carol's body was found

in the trunk of her car.

She had been strangled.

I got her death
certificate right here.

Day after they found her body,
they caught up with Arthur.

And they wind up
arresting him.

He was sentenced
to 82 years in jail.

Wow.

So you think Carol's
the one you saw?

Yes.

Oh, my gosh.

What else?

I was outside
in the front.

And I saw
an older woman.

And she was completely
freaking out.

She's yelling and screaming
and running down the road.

And she was shouting,
"Oh, my God," uh, like,

"Oh, my God.
Why did you do this?"

And, uh, I got the overwhelming
sense of dread and loss.

Then I saw a very
bad car accident,

a deadly car accident.

The death, uh, was, like,

between here
and the next house.

Uh, and then there were people
all over the place freakin' out.

Uh, I got that this happened

between the '70s
and '90s.

And it was warm out.
And it was during the daytime.

You said the death
happened between --

between '70 and '90?

Yeah.

Uh, you also
thought it was warm?

Yes.
Okay.

Now, there was
a deadly car accident

that happened right
in front of this property

on May 23, 1979.

There were two boys
driving down the hill

right beside the house here.

They lost control
and slammed into a tree.

Hmm.
The car flipped over

and landed on top
of one of the boys.

He was k*lled
instantly.

Here's his death
certificate here.

Now, this kid
was only 16 years old.

Now, the victim's name
was Randy Tusi.

I spoke to a woman
who grew up in the house.

Um, and she remembered
the accident.

Uh, the victim
was her cousin.

So the accident happened
in broad daylight.

And with that noise it made,

everybody came running out
to see what happened.

Now, do you think
this is what you saw?

Absolutely, yes.

So, something that,

uh, really concerned me

is this entity
that I encountered.

This thing, uh,
can trap anybody

who dies near
or on this property.

If it wants that person's soul,
it'll -- it'll take it.

Oh, my God.

So, I saw it deciding
to take this person

who d*ed
in the car accident

who was a male.

And I did have a sketch
done of what I saw.

[Bleep] me.

Oh, my God.

It's horrible.

I've seen it.

That looks just
like the thing

I've seen crouched down
over here by the couch.

Can you describe to me?

All right.
So let me get this straight.

This creepy thing can
take the soul of people

who die on this property.

Yes.

I knew somethin'
bad was here.

See, I'm worried
now about your dad.

I don't feel like
he's safe at all.

I mean, none of us are.
But he's so vulnerable.

He's so old.

It actually scares
the hell out of me.

If their father dies here,
would this happen to him?

I really can't tell you
because this --

this thing decides who --

who it wants
and who it doesn't want.

But if -- if this thing
wanted their father,

he would take it.

Yes.

This thing looks like
somethin' out of a horror movie.

What the hell is it?

So, it's called
a skin walker.

Skin walkers, uh, typically
are born into human form.

But I don't think
that this one was ever born.

I think that it just existed.

And I think that's
why it's so twisted.

It's extremely old
and negative.

And other thing it does
with these, uh, souls,

these people's souls
and images

that it collects,
is it keeps them.

And then it can transform
into their image, um, at will.

So you might see somebody
that you know to be alive,

like, walking in the house
or walking through the house.

And then you come back in.

And that person's, like,
asleep in the other room.

Well, that's the skin walker

borrowing that living
person's image.

And it likes to just
kind of torment the living.

Do me a favor, Chyanne,
and tell her

about the nightmares
about your mom.

They would start out good.

And I'd see her.

And she was holding
her arms open

like she wanted me
to come hug her.

So I thought, you know,
"Oh, I get to see my mom.

She just passed away.
She's back."

So I ran to her.

And I couldn't stop
myself from running.

And she transformed
into this mon--

monstrous thing.

And she started choking me.

Mm-hmm.

I've seen an apparition
of a man.

And I thought
it was my husband.

He -- He was dressed
like him, white T-shirt,

jeans, had the same body
build, same hair.

And then it clicked,

"My husband's on the road."
And I watched it.

And it kind of turned
like that and just vanished.

Wow.

There are other ways the living
might experience this thing.

You might hear or see things
getting knocked over.

When I first saw it, uh,

when it was coming over,
it was growling at me.

So I thought maybe the living
would hear growling.

You would obviously feel
like you're being watched.

I felt like, you know, you could
see it as a black shadow.

Uh, it can also manipulate
the living to do bad things

and to act out or embrace
their bad, dark side.

So, a lot
of what you've said

is exactly
what these ladies, um,

relayed to me that
they're experiencing.

So many, in fact, we're gonna
take 'em one at a time.

You just feel like
you're always being watched.

Um, you don't have
any privacy at all.

You mentioned to me
shadow figures you see.

It's, uh, very dark.

Mm-hmm.

And it's very low to the ground.

And it's very fast.

Now, Patty,
tell her what you heard.

I felt something like it
got up off the bed

and walked over beside me.

And it gave this very,
very loud growl

when it was a really evil growl.

And it scared me bad.

So, now, everything that the
girls here describe to you,

is that all being
caused by this thing?

Mm-hmm.
It is.

It's pure evil.

So, Amy,
this skin walker thing,

I mean, it's caused
these women nothin' but terror.

If they don't do anything
about it, what could happen?

It can indirectly
cause you to develop

severe mental-health issues
or physical issues.

And exposed to it long enough,
you could lose your mind.

You could have
a heart att*ck.

You could have a stroke.

You know, this thing would
enjoy any of this happening.

So it is extremely,
uh, detrimental.

I'll start with you, Norma.

You -- You told me you thought
you were goin' insane.

I did, yeah.
I think I'm goin' crazy.

I started seein'
a psychiatrist even over...

Said I, uh,
had anxiety and PTSD.

Now, Chyanne,
when you were here, you --

you were real nasty
at some point, right?

- Angry.
- Angry.

I hated everybody, everything.

And at points,

I just wanted to die along
with everything else.

I had to get out of here.

I just couldn't take it
anymore.

I'm glad I did while I could.

Now, Patty, you --

you were tellin' me
you felt the same way.

Yes, very emotional,
real depressed a lot,

just feel down all the time.

And I just want to cry
at the drop of a hat.

Sometimes, I feel like I'm gonna
have a nervous breakdown.

Patty,
you got health issues

that you've been
suffering with, too, right?

Health has really
declined a lot.

Since I've been here,

I had to have
a heart catheter done.

I'm sick constantly.

And that's bein' caused
all by this thing.

Yes.

So, Norma, it's a good thing
you called us in when you did.

Uh, I've done well
over 100 cases with Amy.

And I've never seen
anything like this.

So I'm just hoping
there's a way you guys

can live here safely

and help your dad live out
his final days in peace.

To see if that's
gonna be possible,

I'm gonna turn it
over to Amy.

I wish I had better news.

But it's obviously best
if you relocate.

So basically, this skin walker
thing can't be dealt with

is what you're tellin' me.

No.

So there's no way
of gettin' rid of it

and then bein' able
to live here safely?

Mnh-mnh.

But in the meantime,

there is something you can do
to protect yourself.

I want you to reach out
to a shaman.

What I want them to do

is to set up a boundary
around your property.

And this will keep
it at bay.

I want the person to also clear
the land of the residual energy.

Things will feel a lot lighter,
a lot better.

But you're still gonna
have mood issues.

You're still going
to have illnesses.

Um, those things
will still be going on

because of
the negative energy.

But at least you'll be able
to function enough to --

to get it together
to get out.

All right, so the shaman comin'
in is basically

just gonna buy them some time

until they can get
their affairs in order

if they decide to move.

Right.

So it's gonna be
a tough situation for you guys.
Very.

It sounds like
you're gonna have

to get your father
out of here.

Feel like he needs
to be out of here.

Yes.

Norma, what
are you gonna do?

I'm gonna have to relocate.
I can't deal with it, you know?

I don't want
to live here no more.

And you can't have your health
goin' downhill anymore.

No, to be honest, there's times
I pray for God to take me.

I just want out.

I -- I don't think
no one should live here.

I think this place needs
to be left in peace.

It's never easy telling a family
they need to leave their home.

But in this case, it's the only
way they can remain safe.

I believe if Norma
and Patty contact a shaman,

they'll be able
to protect themselves

and their father

until they can leave
the property for good.