01x06 - Iron Sisters

Episode transcripts for the TV show "The Dropout". Aired: March 3, 2022 - present.
Miniseries based on the podcast The Dropout tells the story of the rise and fall of the youngest self-made billionaire, Elizabeth Holmes.
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01x06 - Iron Sisters

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Ian Gibbons was found in his bathroom.


He d*ed in the hospital today.

Ian can't testify now.

And Richard has to settle.

We won.

My grandson Tyler.

He's graduating from Stanford
in a couple months,

and he would love to have
the chance to work with you.

Of course. Yeah.

WADE MIQUELON: We're building
these wellness centers in our stores.

No more extensions.

We'll be ready in September.

We're going to launch in phases.

Phase one: we're gonna use
the Siemens machines to run the tests.

Walgreens doesn't need to know
exactly what we're running the tests on.

We launch in Walgreens in hours.

We did it!

I'm Mark. I'm the new lab director.

one thing you need to know

about Elizabeth Holmes.

[ON PHONE] She's a fraud, Richard.

She's always been a fraud.

WOMAN: Let me just touch up
your lips here.

- WOMAN: There you are.

ERROL MORRIS: Hi, Elizabeth.

I haven't met you yet. I'm Errol Morris.

It's, it's such a huge honor

to, to be working with you on these ads.

I'm just such a huge fan of your work.

ERROL: I'm sorry, we're,

we're going to have you look in there.

I thought it would be
interesting to ask you,

what do you dream will be true by ?

That less people have to say goodbye

too soon to the people they love.

ERROL: And can you tell us a secret?

I don't have many secrets. Um...

That's it? Is it this easy?

And we'll get your results back soon.


WOMAN: Wall Street Journal.
How can I help you?


This is John Carreyrou.

Hello. Hello.

Hello. How can I help you?

This is Dr. Richard Fuisz.

Uh, I have a story for you.

Um, hold on. I can't find my glasses.

Where did I put 'em?

- Hold on.
- How... how did you get this number?

Um, from Adam Clapper.

He writes The Pathology Blawg.

Uh, Blawg, B-L-A-W-G.

I don't know why he spells it like that.

At any rate, he wrote a post
about a startup,

and he said to call you because
of your story on Medicare fraud.


What do you know about Theranos?

Healthcare startup
with products at Walgreens.

Impressive board.
A unicorn, worth billions.


It's all fake.

JOHN: Alright, what makes you say that?


I'm taking this.
My mother gave this to us.


It's the reporter from
The Wall Street Journal.




- JOHN [ON PHONE]: Hello?
- Hello.

Do you have any solid evidence
of what you're saying?


MARK ROESSLER: That's NDA number one.

And one more nondisclosure,
and we are good to go.

I, um...

I told my dad that I'm
starting work here.

He-he's just really excited
because it's my first job.

I'll make sure to tell him
not to tell anyone.

Yeah, I wouldn't tell anyone
that you talked to him about it.

Yeah, sure. No, of course.

Um, sorry, what are...
What are these that I have to initial?

The words you're not allowed to use
when talking about Theranos.

Research. Biology. Pipette.

This is our state-of-the-art lobby.

Oh my god. Is that her?

Yes, it is. Looks like she's
doing another interview.

Elizabeth, this is Erika Cheung.

This is her first day.

Hello. Welcome to Theranos.

It is such an honor, um, to meet you.

It's just really rare to have the chance

to work for a female CEO, so...

Thank you.

Well, I need that seat.

- Oh, yeah, sure.
- Of course.

How-how does... does that work?
MAN: Yeah, it's good.

Do you want me looking up
at the, the wall?

MAN: Sure.


MARK: You won't be running tests on
live patient samples from Walgreens yet.

We may bump you up but for now,

we're actually putting everyone
on assay validation

so we get more tests approved
to be run on the Edison.

I thought all the tests were
already being run on the Edison.

Just because the website...

Yeah, that's... No, that's... Um...

By the way, I was very impressed
by your application.

I don't know if I, uh...

Yeah. Psyched to have you on the team.

Oh, thank you. I'm really excited to...


ERIKA: ... be here.


MARK: Um, you know what?
It's a high-stress environment,

but we also take parties
pretty seriously here.

Lots of prizes.

Uh, I actually won a gift certificate
to Jamba Juice once.

Okay, so, uh, this is you.

Any questions, come to me.

- Good luck.
- Thank you. I...



Put it on the camera on your computer.


So they can't watch you.


You know, a lot
of successful women experience

something called imposter syndrome.


Where they feel
that none of their success

is actually earned.

That it's all a fraud

and they will eventually be found out.

Have you ever experienced that?

Yeah, sure.

There are always moments of doubt.

But as women,

we have to start believing in ourselves

and we have to start today.


You've got some fans in the crowd.



How does it feel to be back at Stanford

after you dropped out?


pretty great.


You actually got the idea at Stanford

and pitched it to a few professors here.

And not everyone thought
it was a good idea.

Actually a female professor.


You would think that women
would want to help other women

- in the sciences.
- Yeah, you would think.

But it's hard for some women
to get out of their old thinking.

"It was hard for me,
so it should be hard for you."

But you have to make sure
that if you're out there

and you have a new idea,

you don't listen to a single person

who tells you that you can't do it.


Oh, for f*ck's sake.

You know how many times
I've been told, "You can't do it"?

The sexism I've faced
has been so naked and ugly,

it's just taken my breath away.

But she thinks I didn't support her idea

because she's had it easier than me.

Because I'm, what?
Because I'm jealous of her?

- Are you?
- f*ck, no. I'm mad.

I've supported women my whole career.

And how many chances
are women going to get

to do what she's doing,
to be the CEO of a major startup?

She screws this up, and we all look bad.

That's the ugly truth.
And that is unforgivable.

Well, it must be hard to be a woman.

I can't believe you're the person
I have to talk to about any of this.

- What? What did I say?
- We're not even friends.

We know each other
from, what, conferences?

- We could be friends.
- Oh, I love it.


Armed security.

It's the new status symbol.

We have to stop her.

What about the, um,
the reporter from The Journal?

What did he say?

He said we just need a, a better source.

Someone who's worked there.

How do we do that?

TYLER: Uh, did you just graduate?

- Yeah, from Berkeley.
- TYLER: Me too.

Well, Stanford, just barely.

I almost failed out
because I went on tour

with Dispatch two weeks
before graduating.

Do you know Dispatch?


- You don't know Dispatch?
- Mm-hm.

♪ I have seen the others ♪

♪ And I have discovered ♪

♪ That this fight is
not worth fighting ♪

- You don't know this song?
- No.




So, uh, did they, did they recruit you
at a job fair too?


Did I, did I say something dumb?
I'm, I'm sorry.

No, no, no, no.

Uh, my grandfather is on the board.

George Shultz.

He was the Secretary of State.

And Treasury, actually.

And he, like, ended
the Cold w*r with Russia.

Yeah, I know what the Cold w*r is.

Yeah, he ended it.

So you're saying
that they didn't recruit you

at a job fair?


ERIKA: Oh no.

- What, what did I just do...
- It's fine.

It's fine. It happens all the time.

Wait. What is that?
Is that, is that a hanger?

For fishing out broken glass.

Okay, these...

these Edisons are, um...

Yeah, I, I just thought there would be,
like, some cutting-edge tech

because of all the security and, like...

There's a secret lab.

They call it Normandy, because the tech
that they're using down there

is going to storm the beaches
and then this lab is Jurassic Park

because we've got
all the old tech up here.

ERIKA: Wait, can you show me?

It's through those doors.

So that's where they run
all the actual patient tests?

From Walgreens. Yeah.

You told her we were coming, right?

- I didn't want her to say no...
- Richard!

No. No. We're leaving.


- Hi, Rochelle.
- Richard.

Uh, this, this is, um...

I'm Phyllis Gardner.
I'm a professor at Stanford. Anyway...

Um, Richard thought that maybe
we could speak with you

about what you know about Theranos.

Um, I think we're
the only people in the world

who believe that it's all a fraud.

But, hey, if this is a bad time.

I want to burn that company
to the ground.

Come in.

ERROL: We know you're one of the most
successful women in America,

but we don't know you as a person.

Talk to me like you're talking
to your best friend.

Who are you? Describe yourself.

- You're turning soon.
- Yeah.

ERROL: Has your life turned out
the way you thought it would.

Whoo! Uh...

- I'm gonna...
- ERROL: Let's take five.

Erika, can you redo these, please,

for the syphilis validation?

- Was there something wrong or...
- No.

Just delete the outliers there.

I marked them out for you. Thanks.

- He did it again?
- I have to say something.

Wait, now? We're, we're doing this now?

Mark, um, there's been a mistake,

Uh, Erika. It's actually
not a great moment for me.

I'm giving blood to the lab.

We get ten dollars a tube.

Okay. You're asking me
to cherry pick data,

and I obviously can't do that.


Because we're not going
to get a clear picture

on whether or not the test works.

But those were outliers.

Hi. What's going on here?

Yeah, I'm sorry.
But what exactly is an outlier?

Because it seems to me like
it's just a data point

that isn't doing
what you want it to do and...

We consider that an outlier.

Okay, but then there would be outliers

in every data run
we've generated so far.

Right. And we delete outliers.

Okay, I'm, like, not trying
to make a big thing of this.

- I just think that...
- You sure?

It seems like you are.

We delete outliers. That's what we do.

All good?



- I'm going to get fired.
- You're not going to get fired.

It's wrong, it's bad science.

- I'm going to talk to her.
- Talk to who?

Wait. Elizabeth?

- Tyler!
- CHARLOTTE: Hi, Tyler.

We're throwing a birthday party.

We're doing the seating chart.

ELIZABETH: It's my th.

- TYLER: Wow.
- It's really good to see you.

You, too.

So who do you want
to talk to at the party?

Henry Kissinger
or one of Elizabeth's friends?

Are we inviting any of your friends?

Well, you're my friends. So...

Um, Charlotte, do you, you don't have
any more of that coffee, do you?

I'll make some.

Oh, I didn't see Sunny on the list.

Did you want to invite him?

If you want, as long as
I don't have to talk to him.

CHARLOTTE: George. You're terrible.

Come help me bring out the coffee.

I know he can be difficult,
but, uh, I think,

I think I would like him at my birthday.

Of course.

You only turn once.


I wouldn't know. I'm .

I haven't had a birthday party in,

I can't even remember the last time.

- Really?
- Yeah.

- Can I talk to you for a moment?
- Sure.

So, uh, George tells me
that you play guitar.

Would you want to play something
for me at my party?

Of, of course. Yeah.

Um, yeah. I just, um...

So, I think that there might be
some mismanagement in the lab

you should know about.

Really. What, what's going on?

Well, we're being told
to cherry pick data

on the validation studies.

We're reporting accuracy of percent

when the real number is a lot lower.

I mean, right now, if people
infected with syphilis

were tested on the Edison,

we would be telling of them
that they didn't have syphilis.

That can't be right.

I know. That's what, that's what I said.


Well, thank you for telling me, Tyler.

That's very brave of you.

Yeah, yeah, of course.

I think that people
just want to please you,

and they're not really thinking
about the consequences.

You said we, who are you referring to?

- Oh, my lab partner, Erika Cheung.
- Oh.

- Wait, what's going on?
- They're moving me to Normandy.

- What? When?
- Now.

TYLER: It's a promotion.

You get to see Normandy.

Ready, Erika?

- Can, can we have lunch soon?
- Yeah.

Unfortunately, you're not
on the same team anymore.

You can't disclose
what you're working on.

So this is Normandy.

You're the most junior so
you'll have to work on Thanksgiving,

but at least you finally get a chance
to run real patient samples.

Will I be working with the new tech?

New tech? What new tech?

Who told you there was new tech?

Well, who told you there was new tech?

ERIKA: Why are they diluting
the blood samples?

Erika, don't ask questions down here.

John? John, can you hear me?

It's, it's Richard Fuisz.

I'm here with, uh...

Phyllis Gardner and Rochelle Gibbons.

Hi, Rochelle, thanks for talking to me.

We have your story.

It's all fake. Rochelle can prove it.

So let Rochelle talk.

I am. I'm just setting the scene.

You don't need to set the scene.
He's a writer.

Rochelle, tell him everything
that you told us.


Uh, Ian told me before he d*ed

that Elizabeth Holmes
didn't invent a single thing.

It was Ian who invented it.

And if Ian had testified,

it would have invalidated
Theranos' patents.

Yes. Yes.

That's why she wasn't going
to let him testify.

That's your story.

Rochelle, did Ian write
any of this down?

Is there any documentation at all?

Well, they took his computer.

She's your source.

JOHN: I'm sorry.
That's informed speculation.

I can definitely use you,
Rochelle, and Phyllis, too,

but as secondary sources, for...

What about me? I can be a source.

JOHN: No, the lawsuit.

You have an axe to grind with them.

- No, I don't.
- Yes, you do.

See, for a story like this,
I really need someone

with firsthand knowledge.

She makes everybody who works there
sign a nondisclosure.

How are we supposed to find a source?

ERIKA: Yeah, say
happy Thanksgiving to everyone.

I miss you.

MAN: [ON PHONE] Okay, bye.
Eating extra turkey for you.

Alright. Love you. MAN: Love you, too.




Yeah, it's a, it's a vitamin D test
for a patient in Palo Alto.

And the machine failed
two quality control checks.


They just left me this number
if I had any problems, but I...

We can't give this patient test results
based on this machine.

WOMAN: Yes, we can.

Someone's coming to you.

Who? Wait, who's coming?

I thought I was, I was here alone.





WOMAN: Yes. Hello.


Don't you work
in research and development?

Are you certified to be in here?

The machine failed,
so we obviously can't run the test.

The patient would get
inaccurate results.



No, this is a real patient.


She's a real person.

Happy Thanksgiving.




They're either running tests
on Edisons that don't work

or taking a drop of blood, diluting it,

and running it on Siemens machines.

- I bet Mark...
- Isn't it possible...

- ERIKA: Everyone knows...
- ... that we don't know

what the f*ck we're talking about?

That we just graduated,

and we're freaking out about
something we don't understand.

I mean, It's just vitamin D levels.

Yeah, what happens
when it's syphilis or hep C?

You know they're going to start running
the hep C on the Edisons any day now.

Do you really think
she'll let that happen?

Dude, she is the CEO.
She knows what's going on.

She's purposefully giving people
bad results.

That's not her.


Whoa. Are you, are you mad at me?

Yeah. Why-why do you think
she doesn't know what's going on

in her own company?

Because she's a woman?

Because she's friends
with your grandfather?

Because she's rich like you
and she comes over for brunch?

Or because you're going
to her f*cking birthday party tonight?

That's so...

Why the f*ck would you say that?

It was a real person.

I gave inaccurate test results
to a real person.

Yeah, but... [DOOR OPENS]


The numbers and facts exist.

Everything else is irrelevant. Alright?

We gather evidence,

and we follow it
until we get to the truth.

Because there is truth.

There is truth.

Are you going to help me?

Yeah, whatever. I can do this alone.


ERROL: Okay, we're
going to try it again.

When people talk about glass ceilings...

ERROL: Try it again.

You know, when people
talk about glass ceilings, uh...

WOMAN: The first line
is, "glass ceiling."

ERROL: Just relax.
You're talking to your friends.

When people talk about glass ceilings...

- Ah. I'm sorry.
- ERROL: It's alright.

We just need a few more.


You look tired. Fix your hair.

My hair's fine. I don't need your help.

- You don't need my help?
- No, I'm... They're trying to sh**t.

When people talk about glass ceilings...

SUNNY: Why weren't you focused?
The ad's going to be terrible.

ELIZABETH: Can we just go?

They don't even want me to come.

They don't think I'm classy enough.

- They're snobs.
- So be classy.

Sunny, stop.

Stop, you can't. People can see us.

Sunny. Sunny.

Fine, George doesn't like you,

but I have to keep him happy.

Don't talk to me like you talk
to other people.

- I... I'm not.
- What if I told everyone tonight?

- Tell them what?
- That you love me.

That I'm your king.

I'll meet you at the party.
I can't be late.


♪ I hear your heart b*at
to the b*at of the drums ♪

♪ Oh, what a shame
that you came here with someone ♪


Oh okay. Uh, thank you.

Thank you for coming. Thank you.

Thank you.

MAN: Happy birthday.

Thank you very much.


- WOMAN: Birthday girl.
- MAN: Hey!

Happy birthday!

♪ Let's make the most of the night ♪

♪ Like we're gonna die young ♪

You didn't come with a plus one, I see.

Oh no, I...

I don't have time to date.

Funny, Elizabeth says the same thing.

ELIZABETH: Here you are.

Sunny, what are you telling Charlotte?


- That translates to...
- Sunny thinks

he can speak Mandarin.

I'm so classy.


You two should h*t the dance floor.

Yeah, I don't, I don't dance.


That's too bad.

CHARLOTTE: Tyler! Tyler's here.

Hey, Grandpa, can we, can we talk?

Don't tell me this is what you're going
to want for your th.

Nope, definitely don't want this.

But can we, can we talk somewhere?

What is it? You're scaring me.

Is everything okay?

I just, um...

I, uh...

I just...

I just want to talk
to you about Theranos.

ELIZABETH: Talk about what?

It's a party. Nobody should talk
about work at a party.

And Elizabeth works harder
than all of us,

so it must be true.

Come and tell Charlotte
about the cover of Fortune.

She'll be thrilled.

- I guess we should get back out there.
- No.

You were going to say something.

What were you going to tell
your grandfather?

Were you gonna...
What were you gonna say?

Are you running
the Edison proficiency tests

on Siemens machines?

I don't know anything about that.

Are, are you running patient samples
on Siemens machines?

You have no idea...
what you're talking about.


Did I answer all of your questions?

GEORGE: Tyler? Tyler!

Kissinger wants Tyler
to play the song he wrote.

He doesn't want to be
the sole performer tonight, apparently.

Did you, did you write a song for me?

I'd love to hear it.

♪ Galileo mapped a sea of stars ♪

♪ Noah told us of the coming flood ♪

♪ And, Elizabeth,
you will see the future ♪

♪ In a drop of blood ♪

♪ Tesla harnessed electricity ♪

♪ Steve Jobs gave us heights to reach ♪

♪ But, Elizabeth,
you will see the future ♪

♪ You will change the world ♪

♪ Elizabeth ♪

♪ The vision ♪

♪ Elizabeth ♪

♪ The brave ♪

♪ Oh, Elizabeth ♪

♪ Elizabeth ♪

♪ The great ♪

♪ Elizabeth, the great ♪


Oh, I love that so much.

It's so good.

Play it again.

Yeah, play it again.



♪ Galileo ♪

- ERIKA: Who is it?
- It's me.

You were right about her.
You were right about everything.

She knows.

Now, just you and me can celebrate.

We haven't had any time, just us.

What should I put on?

What's that, that song
you showed me the other day?

I'm really tired.

SUNNY: Oh, stop it.
We're going to keep celebrating.

♪ You're the only one invited ♪

♪ 'Cause there's no one else for you ♪

♪ 'Cause you know I get excited ♪

♪ When you get jealous too ♪

♪ I turn my chin music up ♪

♪ And I'm puffing my chest ♪

♪ I'm turning red in the face ♪

♪ You can call me obsessed ♪

♪ It's not your fault that they hover ♪

♪ I mean no disrespect ♪

♪ It's my right to be hellish ♪

♪ I still get jealous ♪

♪ 'Cause you're too sexy beautiful ♪

♪ And everybody wants a taste ♪

♪ That's why ♪

♪ I still get jealous ♪

♪ Oh ♪

♪ That's why ♪

♪ I still get jealous ♪

♪ Jealous ♪

- TYLER: It's a good email.
- ERIKA: Yeah.

We're covering ourselves.

I mean, she opens this email,
and she won't be able to say

that she wasn't aware
of the regulatory breaches.

It's, it's electronic paper trail.


Send it.


- You want... you want me to...
- No, I'm freaking out.

O-okay. Why?
Because that's the obvious...

Because I'm going to get fired, so.

Wh-what's wrong?


Hey, you don't have to send
the email right now.

- We can wait.
- I just... I have problems with panic.


I get it.

You don't, but it's okay.

No, I-I get it. I do.

Like, I can't just get another job.

I grew up in a trailer.

With six people.

And my freshman year
at Berkeley was, I...

I felt like I was on the moon.

I was a mess and...

Then I... I got as*ault.


I, I didn't know.

I almost dropped out.

And I don't know.

I stayed.

So it's not just an email.

It's my job and it's my rent,

and it's maybe losing the thing
that I love to do.

SUNNY: Baby, look.

Your birthday gift.

- I put an offer in.

I'm going to buy it for us.

We move there, we live there together.

We do what everyone wants us to do,

and we take the company public.

Wine cellar.

How many bedrooms?

ERIKA: I'm going to send it now.

Wait. Wait, wait.

Tyler, it's fine. What are you doing?

I'm taking your name off it
and sending it from my email.


I'm a Shultz.



What is it?

I heard you wanted to see me.

Wh-what is she doing here?
She has nothing to do with this.

Sit down, please, Erika.

We're interested in the email
you sent to Elizabeth.

Tyler, where did you get the information
about the proficiency testing?

You're not allowed in Normandy.


Did you give Tyler that information?

I figured it out alone.

Oh, you figured it out.

You almost failed out of Stanford
your senior year.

You want to explain to me
about statistics?

You want to tell me
all about how labs work?

You think you know
better than all of us?

No. I...

I'm just trying to do the right thing.

Oh god.
You think you're the good guy here?

The only reason I've taken
so much time away from my work

to address you personally is because
you are George Shultz's grandson.

Do you get that?

Yeah, I get that.

So I'm going to go ahead
and give my two weeks' notice.

I don't want two weeks. Leave now.



I know it was you.

I can make it so no one
will ever hire you again.

Are you going to be a problem?

I can't lose my job.


Then this ends here.

George, he just quit.

He got some bad intel.

I'm sorry to say this,
but he might not be capable

of understanding the complexity
of what goes on in our labs.

The science is over his head.

GEORGE: He's on his way over now.
I'll get the full story.

- Are you sure this is...
- He's going to take care of it.

- I promise.

We managed to nab some crab legs
for you for dinner.

Oh, yeah.

Uh, Charlotte, this is Erika.

Lovely to meet you.

I'm, uh, Tyler's wicked step-grandma.

- He's told us so much about you.
- GEORGE: Tyler.

Tyler. Hello.

I just received a call from Elizabeth.

She told me that you quit today
in a very unprofessional manner.

Yeah, that's actually what we came
to talk to you about.

You believe Theranos
is lying to regulators?

Yeah, but there's a lot more
we don't know

because no one will tell us,

so that's why we need you
to start asking questions.


I won't.


Why, why not?

You don't have all the information.

You're jumping to conclusions
without knowing the context,

which is, I'm sorry to say this,

petulant and immature.


They both work there.

They know what they saw.

No. No.

There are very few times in my life

when I have been given
the chance to do something

that is purely good.

And this is one of those times.

This company is going to save lives.

So, is this conversation over?

What's for dessert?

I know how much you want to believe

that everything she's saying is real.

I'm sorry?

I, I wanted to believe it, too,
but if you look

at the numbers and data, it becomes...

Are you saying

that I don't understand the data?

No, I just...

Elizabeth did a demo for me.

And I saw the results.

Are you telling me that isn't true?

ERIKA: Yes, I am.

She's lying.

I'm so glad Elizabeth is promoting

and supporting other female scientists.

I know it's a very difficult field
for young women.

It can be.

And this is the way you repay her?

I appreciate you coming here,

but I resent you implying

that I'm so old
that I have lost my ability

to judge another person's character.

It's not your fault.
I think she's taking advantage of you.

They're trying to convince me
you're stupid.

- George!
- Who is? Sunny? Elizabeth?

GEORGE: They can't convince me of that.

They can convince me

that you simply don't have a good handle

on all the sophisticated chemistry
and engineering

that's taking place inside Theranos.

I would like this
conversation to be over.

George told him he didn't believe him.

SUNNY: Of course, it's fine.

George loves you.

Errol Morris liked the commercial.

They want to do a hashtag.

Hashtag Iron Sisters.

PHYLLIS: According to
The New Yorker, she's a saint.

This is from William Perry,
former Secretary of Defense.

"She has sometimes been called
another Steve Jobs,

"but I think that that's
an inadequate comparison.

He was a genius.
She's one with a big heart."

I mean, why?

Why does everybody want
to believe in this girl so badly?

Because she's pretty and blonde.

She's a symbol of feminist progress.

She makes the men in tech and business

feel good without challenging them.


And she's pretty and blonde.

Richard, what are you wearing?

Didn't Lorraine pack your suitcase?

Uh, she's gone.

We're getting a divorce.
I don't want to talk about it.

W-well, um, [CLEARS THROAT]

maybe you want to take
a little break for a while.

Break? Why would I take a break?

Because you look tired, you sound tired.

- Lorraine's leaving you.
- Just shush, okay?

I'm trying to write
this LinkedIn profile.

Jesus. Why?

I'm looking for Theranos employees

to be sources.

- Smart.
- No!

Come on, there's no way
that Theranos employees

can say where they actually work.

She's g*dd*mn El Chapo.

Don't type in Theranos!

Type in biomedical.

Don't tell me what to do.

You're not as smart
as you think you are.

Yes, I am.





Um, I, uh, won't be a whistleblower.

I can point you in the right direction.

Confirm a few details.

That's, that's far as I'm willing to go.

Is that understood?


can offer you a water?


I don't have a water.

I don't know why I said that.

[STAMMERS] I'm nervous.

Out of curiosity,

what made you decide to talk to me?

Was it something I wrote
on my LinkedIn message?

It was your signature.

Dr. Fuisz.

We're both physicians.

We took the Hippocratic Oath.

Do no harm.


I'm ready for your questions now.

Oh yeah, one second. I...

I, uh...

I wrote them down.

Uh, number one:

How is Theranos defrauding Walgreens?

JOHN: The Theranos Wellness Center,
according to Mark Roessler,

packs the Arizona samples into a cooler

to be shipped
to their laboratories in Palo Alto.

Now sometimes, the coolers
are left unattended for hours,

and the blood samples
literally bake in the sun.

And by the time the samples reach
their final destination,

the blood is often clotted
and completely unusable, right?

If, however, the sample is still viable,

Theranos dilutes the blood

and processes it
on a modified Siemens machine.

What do you think?

How many sources?

- I have one for now...
- Not enough...

But I have contacted employees.

They're scared. They've all signed NDA.

I can't run this story
off of one anonymous source.

I know. Mark Roessler gave me
the names of two lab associates

who recently left the company.

I've reached out
to one of them on LinkedIn.

I'm hoping he's going to respond.

Associates. How young?

- Early s.
- Ugh.

They're going to get h*t with a lot.

Do you think they're ready?

Have you seen the names on that board?

James Mattis, Henry Kissinger.
It's like a... it's like an army.

WOMAN: It's so empowering and powerful

to be a part of a company

created by a woman
who's so incredibly intelligent

and also nurturing.

The reason I got into engineering

was because I looked at it and I said,

"That looks hard, that's a challenge,

so I'm going to do it."

That's a role model that we need.

We need more of these role models
for young women.

WOMAN : I think it's definitely
on the trajectory

to be just as much a career
for women as it is for men.


WOMAN : To see a woman
leading such a strong company

and, and leading with these huge ideas

and doing so in a very technical manner

and how much that does inspire
other young women

to want to pursue these,
not only technical dreams,

but to not, to not be afraid
to dream really big.


JOHN: [ON PHONE] Yeah, hello.

TYLER: Uh, John Carreyrou?

This is Tyler Shultz.

You know, when people talk
about glass ceilings,

I always say

next to every glass ceiling,

there's an Iron Lady.

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